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Does the Darkness spell dispel the Color Spray and Flaming Sphere spells?

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The last sentence of the Darkness spell has the following text:

If any of this spell’s area overlaps with an area of light created by a spell of 2nd level or lower, the spell that created the light is dispelled.

The Color Spray spell creates "flashing, colored light", and Flaming Sphere sheds bright and dim light.

Are both of these spells dispelled if they overlap with the Darkness spell?

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The last sentence of the Darkness spell has the following text:

If any of this spell’s area overlaps with an area of light created by a spell of 2nd level or lower, the spell that created the light is dispelled.

The Color Spray spell creates "flashing, colored light", and Flaming Sphere sheds bright and dim light.

Are both of these spells dispelled if they overlap with the Darkness spell?

dnd-5e spells vision-and-light

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The last sentence of the Darkness spell has the following text:

If any of this spell’s area overlaps with an area of light created by a spell of 2nd level or lower, the spell that created the light is dispelled.

The Color Spray spell creates "flashing, colored light", and Flaming Sphere sheds bright and dim light.

Are both of these spells dispelled if they overlap with the Darkness spell?

dnd-5e spells vision-and-light

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The wording on Darkness reads:

If any of this spell's area overlaps with an area of light created by a spell of 2nd level or lower, the spell that created the light is dispelled

Therefore, if darkness overlaps with the light created by either of these spells, then it will dispel that spell. Do keep note of the wording of Darkness though, as it dispels any spell creating light in the area of darkness, this means that if a flaming sphere is 15 ft. away from the edge of the darkness spell, then it will be dispelled, as the light it creates is in a 20 ft. radius away from it.

This seems to be similar for Color Spray. As you mentioned, Color Spray creates

A dazzling array of flashing, colored light

This seems to imply that as long as darkness overlaps the 15 ft. cone that Color Spray creates, it should dispel Color Spray, and therefore end the blinded condition early if Darkness is cast after Color Spray, or prevent it from occurring if darkness is cast before Color Spray, however this is up to the DM's discretion, as it is not really clear what RAW rules here.

Hope this helps!

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Yes; all of the following can be dispelled by the Darkness spell

To add on to Smart_TJ's answer, here is a list of every 2nd-level or lower spell that explicitly mentions creating light (per Jeremy Crawford's tweet, provided by Nick Brown in a comment) in the PHB:

• 
  Branding Smite


• Color Spray


• 
  Dancing Lights


• 
  Faerie Fire


• 
  Flame Blade


• 
  Flaming Sphere


• 
  Guiding Bolt


• 
  Light


• 
  Moonbeam


• 
  Produce Flame


• Ray of Frost

It would seem all of these spells can be dispelled if cast in the vicinity of a Darkness spell.

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  It's worth noting that Jeremy Crawford's tweet you referenced states "I would allow the darkness spell to dispel any spell of 2nd level or lower that explicitly produces light." This indicates what he would do as a DM, not necessarily how the rule is intended to be interpreted by everyone.
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The wording on Darkness reads:

If any of this spell's area overlaps with an area of light created by a spell of 2nd level or lower, the spell that created the light is dispelled

Therefore, if darkness overlaps with the light created by either of these spells, then it will dispel that spell. Do keep note of the wording of Darkness though, as it dispels any spell creating light in the area of darkness, this means that if a flaming sphere is 15 ft. away from the edge of the darkness spell, then it will be dispelled, as the light it creates is in a 20 ft. radius away from it.

This seems to be similar for Color Spray. As you mentioned, Color Spray creates

A dazzling array of flashing, colored light

This seems to imply that as long as darkness overlaps the 15 ft. cone that Color Spray creates, it should dispel Color Spray, and therefore end the blinded condition early if Darkness is cast after Color Spray, or prevent it from occurring if darkness is cast before Color Spray, however this is up to the DM's discretion, as it is not really clear what RAW rules here.

Hope this helps!

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edited 5 hours ago

answered 5 hours ago

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  To fully answer the question, you should include color spray as well.
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  Jeremy Crawford seems to agree: sageadvice.eu/2014/11/04/no-light-in-the-darkness and twitter.com/jeremyecrawford/status/949114071571341314.
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  I agree with NautArch. This is a good answer so far, but Color Spray is a harder example to answer than Flaming Sphere, since Color Spray is described as creating light, but it's debatable whether what it creates is "an area of light".
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  @NickBrown good clarification that Darkness dispels spells that "explicitly" create light.
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The wording on Darkness reads:

If any of this spell's area overlaps with an area of light created by a spell of 2nd level or lower, the spell that created the light is dispelled

Therefore, if darkness overlaps with the light created by either of these spells, then it will dispel that spell. Do keep note of the wording of Darkness though, as it dispels any spell creating light in the area of darkness, this means that if a flaming sphere is 15 ft. away from the edge of the darkness spell, then it will be dispelled, as the light it creates is in a 20 ft. radius away from it.

This seems to be similar for Color Spray. As you mentioned, Color Spray creates

A dazzling array of flashing, colored light

This seems to imply that as long as darkness overlaps the 15 ft. cone that Color Spray creates, it should dispel Color Spray, and therefore end the blinded condition early if Darkness is cast after Color Spray, or prevent it from occurring if darkness is cast before Color Spray, however this is up to the DM's discretion, as it is not really clear what RAW rules here.

Hope this helps!

share|improve this answer

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answered 5 hours ago

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  To fully answer the question, you should include color spray as well.
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  Jeremy Crawford seems to agree: sageadvice.eu/2014/11/04/no-light-in-the-darkness and twitter.com/jeremyecrawford/status/949114071571341314.
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  I agree with NautArch. This is a good answer so far, but Color Spray is a harder example to answer than Flaming Sphere, since Color Spray is described as creating light, but it's debatable whether what it creates is "an area of light".
  $endgroup$
  – Gandalfmeansme
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  @NickBrown good clarification that Darkness dispels spells that "explicitly" create light.
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  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

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The wording on Darkness reads:

If any of this spell's area overlaps with an area of light created by a spell of 2nd level or lower, the spell that created the light is dispelled

Therefore, if darkness overlaps with the light created by either of these spells, then it will dispel that spell. Do keep note of the wording of Darkness though, as it dispels any spell creating light in the area of darkness, this means that if a flaming sphere is 15 ft. away from the edge of the darkness spell, then it will be dispelled, as the light it creates is in a 20 ft. radius away from it.

This seems to be similar for Color Spray. As you mentioned, Color Spray creates

A dazzling array of flashing, colored light

This seems to imply that as long as darkness overlaps the 15 ft. cone that Color Spray creates, it should dispel Color Spray, and therefore end the blinded condition early if Darkness is cast after Color Spray, or prevent it from occurring if darkness is cast before Color Spray, however this is up to the DM's discretion, as it is not really clear what RAW rules here.

Hope this helps!

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Yes; all of the following can be dispelled by the Darkness spell

To add on to Smart_TJ's answer, here is a list of every 2nd-level or lower spell that explicitly mentions creating light (per Jeremy Crawford's tweet, provided by Nick Brown in a comment) in the PHB:

• 
  Branding Smite


• Color Spray


• 
  Dancing Lights


• 
  Faerie Fire


• 
  Flame Blade


• 
  Flaming Sphere


• 
  Guiding Bolt


• 
  Light


• 
  Moonbeam


• 
  Produce Flame


• Ray of Frost

It would seem all of these spells can be dispelled if cast in the vicinity of a Darkness spell.

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  What does it mean for e.g. Ray of Frost to be dispelled, given that the duration is instantaneous? What about Guiding Bolt, which has a duration of 1 round but deals its damage on the initial hit? Is the initial damage prevented, or only the lingering glow?
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  It's worth noting that Jeremy Crawford's tweet you referenced states "I would allow the darkness spell to dispel any spell of 2nd level or lower that explicitly produces light." This indicates what he would do as a DM, not necessarily how the rule is intended to be interpreted by everyone.
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Yes; all of the following can be dispelled by the Darkness spell

To add on to Smart_TJ's answer, here is a list of every 2nd-level or lower spell that explicitly mentions creating light (per Jeremy Crawford's tweet, provided by Nick Brown in a comment) in the PHB:

• 
  Branding Smite


• Color Spray


• 
  Dancing Lights


• 
  Faerie Fire


• 
  Flame Blade


• 
  Flaming Sphere


• 
  Guiding Bolt


• 
  Light


• 
  Moonbeam


• 
  Produce Flame


• Ray of Frost

It would seem all of these spells can be dispelled if cast in the vicinity of a Darkness spell.

share|improve this answer

edited 38 mins ago

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  What does it mean for e.g. Ray of Frost to be dispelled, given that the duration is instantaneous? What about Guiding Bolt, which has a duration of 1 round but deals its damage on the initial hit? Is the initial damage prevented, or only the lingering glow?
  $endgroup$
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  $begingroup$
  It's worth noting that Jeremy Crawford's tweet you referenced states "I would allow the darkness spell to dispel any spell of 2nd level or lower that explicitly produces light." This indicates what he would do as a DM, not necessarily how the rule is intended to be interpreted by everyone.
  $endgroup$
  – Gandalfmeansme
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Yes; all of the following can be dispelled by the Darkness spell

To add on to Smart_TJ's answer, here is a list of every 2nd-level or lower spell that explicitly mentions creating light (per Jeremy Crawford's tweet, provided by Nick Brown in a comment) in the PHB:

• 
  Branding Smite


• Color Spray


• 
  Dancing Lights


• 
  Faerie Fire


• 
  Flame Blade


• 
  Flaming Sphere


• 
  Guiding Bolt


• 
  Light


• 
  Moonbeam


• 
  Produce Flame


• Ray of Frost

It would seem all of these spells can be dispelled if cast in the vicinity of a Darkness spell.

share|improve this answer

edited 38 mins ago

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