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Declining welcome lunch invitation at new job due to Ramadan
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I am starting a new position next month and I have been kindly invited to a team lunch. I would love to go, but due to the month of Ramadan I will be fasting during the day - no food or drinks allowed. I am not sure if it would be rude to decline their offer. I could ask them to delay it by 1 month but then that is no longer a welcome lunch.
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I am starting a new position next month and I have been kindly invited to a team lunch. I would love to go, but due to the month of Ramadan I will be fasting during the day - no food or drinks allowed. I am not sure if it would be rude to decline their offer. I could ask them to delay it by 1 month but then that is no longer a welcome lunch.
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As a boss, I can tell you that if anything, I would be the one embarrassed about this. I should have been more aware of the situation, and I would be embarrassed for not thinking about this in the first place. Just kindly remind your boss that it is Ramadan, and I am sure that they will be accommodating.
– bremen_matt
7 hours ago
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Is the team lunch a welcome lunch for you or is it a regular activity that you're now invited to as a member of the team?
– Alexandre Aubrey
7 hours ago
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@bremen_matt: Why would you be embarrassed? Religion should be a choice, at least in theory. In many countries, it would be illegal to ask candidates about their religion or lack thereof.
– Eric Duminil
6 hours ago
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@AlexandreAubrey The lunch was specifically arranged for me. They were happy to delay it by a month.
– Umut Esen
6 hours ago
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@UmutEsen Is it possible that you could just go and socialize without eating?
– user4574
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I am starting a new position next month and I have been kindly invited to a team lunch. I would love to go, but due to the month of Ramadan I will be fasting during the day - no food or drinks allowed. I am not sure if it would be rude to decline their offer. I could ask them to delay it by 1 month but then that is no longer a welcome lunch.
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I am starting a new position next month and I have been kindly invited to a team lunch. I would love to go, but due to the month of Ramadan I will be fasting during the day - no food or drinks allowed. I am not sure if it would be rude to decline their offer. I could ask them to delay it by 1 month but then that is no longer a welcome lunch.
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As a boss, I can tell you that if anything, I would be the one embarrassed about this. I should have been more aware of the situation, and I would be embarrassed for not thinking about this in the first place. Just kindly remind your boss that it is Ramadan, and I am sure that they will be accommodating.
– bremen_matt
7 hours ago
5
Is the team lunch a welcome lunch for you or is it a regular activity that you're now invited to as a member of the team?
– Alexandre Aubrey
7 hours ago
14
@bremen_matt: Why would you be embarrassed? Religion should be a choice, at least in theory. In many countries, it would be illegal to ask candidates about their religion or lack thereof.
– Eric Duminil
6 hours ago
12
@AlexandreAubrey The lunch was specifically arranged for me. They were happy to delay it by a month.
– Umut Esen
6 hours ago
2
@UmutEsen Is it possible that you could just go and socialize without eating?
– user4574
3 hours ago
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As a boss, I can tell you that if anything, I would be the one embarrassed about this. I should have been more aware of the situation, and I would be embarrassed for not thinking about this in the first place. Just kindly remind your boss that it is Ramadan, and I am sure that they will be accommodating.
– bremen_matt
7 hours ago
5
Is the team lunch a welcome lunch for you or is it a regular activity that you're now invited to as a member of the team?
– Alexandre Aubrey
7 hours ago
14
@bremen_matt: Why would you be embarrassed? Religion should be a choice, at least in theory. In many countries, it would be illegal to ask candidates about their religion or lack thereof.
– Eric Duminil
6 hours ago
12
@AlexandreAubrey The lunch was specifically arranged for me. They were happy to delay it by a month.
– Umut Esen
6 hours ago
2
@UmutEsen Is it possible that you could just go and socialize without eating?
– user4574
3 hours ago
29
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As a boss, I can tell you that if anything, I would be the one embarrassed about this. I should have been more aware of the situation, and I would be embarrassed for not thinking about this in the first place. Just kindly remind your boss that it is Ramadan, and I am sure that they will be accommodating.
– bremen_matt
7 hours ago
As a boss, I can tell you that if anything, I would be the one embarrassed about this. I should have been more aware of the situation, and I would be embarrassed for not thinking about this in the first place. Just kindly remind your boss that it is Ramadan, and I am sure that they will be accommodating.
– bremen_matt
7 hours ago
5
5
Is the team lunch a welcome lunch for you or is it a regular activity that you're now invited to as a member of the team?
– Alexandre Aubrey
7 hours ago
Is the team lunch a welcome lunch for you or is it a regular activity that you're now invited to as a member of the team?
– Alexandre Aubrey
7 hours ago
14
14
@bremen_matt: Why would you be embarrassed? Religion should be a choice, at least in theory. In many countries, it would be illegal to ask candidates about their religion or lack thereof.
– Eric Duminil
6 hours ago
@bremen_matt: Why would you be embarrassed? Religion should be a choice, at least in theory. In many countries, it would be illegal to ask candidates about their religion or lack thereof.
– Eric Duminil
6 hours ago
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@AlexandreAubrey The lunch was specifically arranged for me. They were happy to delay it by a month.
– Umut Esen
6 hours ago
@AlexandreAubrey The lunch was specifically arranged for me. They were happy to delay it by a month.
– Umut Esen
6 hours ago
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@UmutEsen Is it possible that you could just go and socialize without eating?
– user4574
3 hours ago
@UmutEsen Is it possible that you could just go and socialize without eating?
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Observing your religion shouldn't be viewed as being rude.
Simply respond and explain the situation to them while thanking them for their offer.
You can certainly suggest delaying for a month, and they should be happy enough to do this (other plans permitting).
They may also offer to go for an evening event instead of a daytime one. They might even go further in going ahead with the lunch event, but choosing not to eat or drink out of respect for you (this is something I'd happily partake in).
Thank you for your comment, I think I will be delaying it rather than evening time as the fasting ends at 9pm.
– Umut Esen
11 hours ago
I like this. Also you can ask for alternatives from lunch. Depending on age and what sort of job, maybe a fun hour doing something nearby like arcade or going to the park.
– Dan
7 hours ago
@UmutEsen You might also consider a breakfast thing, especially if you have leftovers from the morning meal. A friend brought some leftover pastries one year, his approval rating went through the roof.
– AmiralPatate
7 hours ago
That is a great point. It might even make people remember that Ramadan takes place and might delay all other lunches to avoid these type of situations.
– Aziris Morora
5 hours ago
@AmiralPatate For most locations in the northern hemisphere, this would require that all the coworkers arrive quite early in the day (eating before 6am in my location right now)...
– user3067860
4 hours ago
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As Snow suggests, observing your religion in this way isn't rude - and asking for a delay isn't a big deal but if it's not feasible that doesn't mean you have to cancel or postpone the lunch.
The point of such a "welcome lunch" isn't really about you eating or drinking things - it's about getting to know your new colleagues in an environment that is less formal than the office or a meeting. You could quite easily fulfill the purpose of doing this by attending and not eating or drinking.
15
Well I always find it a bit awkward when 1 of the guests doesn't eat at the restaurant, both for that guest and the others who are actually eating.
– Laurent S.
11 hours ago
7
+1 for attending and not eating or drinking. People have different beliefs, this way you can still meet the team but you're not forcing people who don't hold the same beliefs as you to change plans while still observing your own religion.
– Old Nick
8 hours ago
15
Attending a restaurant when you are hungry and thirsty is not my idea of fun. The OP may have different views of course. (Remember, strict observance of Ramadan requires nil-by-mouth after sunrise.)
– Martin Bonner
8 hours ago
2
@LaurentS. well, you shouldn't; I don't know how else to put it. Would you feel awkward going to a theme park and not going on a ride; or going to a shop and not buying anything; or going to a petting zoo and not touching an animal? Life is too short to feel awkward because you're doing something which you THINK is a little different, but is actually perfectly normal.
– UKMonkey
8 hours ago
1
@OldNick If it's really a "welcome lunch" for someone, it's not super cool to have the person of honor be stuck watching everyone else eat.
– Azor Ahai
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I suggest that it's not necessary to explain why you can't make it to lunch. You can decline and suggest an alternate date.
For example, you might say "I'm grateful for the warm welcome you're all giving me here at CompanyName. Your offer for the welcome lunch is very kind, but I'm afraid I won't be able to accept until after [specific date]."
There are some things that don't need to be discussed in the workplace, such as medical issues, home life, religion and so on.
For example, you might not be able to attend a lunch because:
- You're fasting for religious reasons
- You're preparing for a medical procedure that requires a specific diet
- You want to remain available so that you're on call to tend to an ailing relative
- You have a special diet because you're trying to make some weight loss goal
- etc etc etc
The key is that you don't need to explain why you're declining the invitation. Explain that you won't be able to go, thank them for the offer, and also give a timeframe when you would be able to in the future. If they can't reschedule, that's fine.
None of this is to say that one should hide their religion. It's simply that it's not necessary to explain your reasons when declining an invitation if you don't want to, and even moreso when the reasons are related to things that are typically left private at work.
Although I think it would be better to give the reason for declining the invitation (or asking that it be postponed), I agree that there's no obligation to do so.
– Andreas Blass
19 mins ago
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As someone else already mentioned, yes you are embarrassing yourself. Religion is a private matter and has no room at work. If you wanna engage in superstition, communism or whatever you do it outside of work, like you would with any other hobby.
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Eating lunch isn't part of work so i fail to see how this is a relevant answer. (Plus, superstition and communism? wut)
– Azor Ahai
24 mins ago
A welcome lunch is part of work. What's it you don't understand about superstition and communism?
– hensti
2 mins ago
There's no world where having to eat lunch is a requirement of being on the job. It's absurd to say someone has to eat because their coworkers are eating. And I'm curious why you've listed them together
– Azor Ahai
18 secs ago
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Observing your religion shouldn't be viewed as being rude.
Simply respond and explain the situation to them while thanking them for their offer.
You can certainly suggest delaying for a month, and they should be happy enough to do this (other plans permitting).
They may also offer to go for an evening event instead of a daytime one. They might even go further in going ahead with the lunch event, but choosing not to eat or drink out of respect for you (this is something I'd happily partake in).
Thank you for your comment, I think I will be delaying it rather than evening time as the fasting ends at 9pm.
– Umut Esen
11 hours ago
I like this. Also you can ask for alternatives from lunch. Depending on age and what sort of job, maybe a fun hour doing something nearby like arcade or going to the park.
– Dan
7 hours ago
@UmutEsen You might also consider a breakfast thing, especially if you have leftovers from the morning meal. A friend brought some leftover pastries one year, his approval rating went through the roof.
– AmiralPatate
7 hours ago
That is a great point. It might even make people remember that Ramadan takes place and might delay all other lunches to avoid these type of situations.
– Aziris Morora
5 hours ago
@AmiralPatate For most locations in the northern hemisphere, this would require that all the coworkers arrive quite early in the day (eating before 6am in my location right now)...
– user3067860
4 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
Observing your religion shouldn't be viewed as being rude.
Simply respond and explain the situation to them while thanking them for their offer.
You can certainly suggest delaying for a month, and they should be happy enough to do this (other plans permitting).
They may also offer to go for an evening event instead of a daytime one. They might even go further in going ahead with the lunch event, but choosing not to eat or drink out of respect for you (this is something I'd happily partake in).
Thank you for your comment, I think I will be delaying it rather than evening time as the fasting ends at 9pm.
– Umut Esen
11 hours ago
I like this. Also you can ask for alternatives from lunch. Depending on age and what sort of job, maybe a fun hour doing something nearby like arcade or going to the park.
– Dan
7 hours ago
@UmutEsen You might also consider a breakfast thing, especially if you have leftovers from the morning meal. A friend brought some leftover pastries one year, his approval rating went through the roof.
– AmiralPatate
7 hours ago
That is a great point. It might even make people remember that Ramadan takes place and might delay all other lunches to avoid these type of situations.
– Aziris Morora
5 hours ago
@AmiralPatate For most locations in the northern hemisphere, this would require that all the coworkers arrive quite early in the day (eating before 6am in my location right now)...
– user3067860
4 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
Observing your religion shouldn't be viewed as being rude.
Simply respond and explain the situation to them while thanking them for their offer.
You can certainly suggest delaying for a month, and they should be happy enough to do this (other plans permitting).
They may also offer to go for an evening event instead of a daytime one. They might even go further in going ahead with the lunch event, but choosing not to eat or drink out of respect for you (this is something I'd happily partake in).
Observing your religion shouldn't be viewed as being rude.
Simply respond and explain the situation to them while thanking them for their offer.
You can certainly suggest delaying for a month, and they should be happy enough to do this (other plans permitting).
They may also offer to go for an evening event instead of a daytime one. They might even go further in going ahead with the lunch event, but choosing not to eat or drink out of respect for you (this is something I'd happily partake in).
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Thank you for your comment, I think I will be delaying it rather than evening time as the fasting ends at 9pm.
– Umut Esen
11 hours ago
I like this. Also you can ask for alternatives from lunch. Depending on age and what sort of job, maybe a fun hour doing something nearby like arcade or going to the park.
– Dan
7 hours ago
@UmutEsen You might also consider a breakfast thing, especially if you have leftovers from the morning meal. A friend brought some leftover pastries one year, his approval rating went through the roof.
– AmiralPatate
7 hours ago
That is a great point. It might even make people remember that Ramadan takes place and might delay all other lunches to avoid these type of situations.
– Aziris Morora
5 hours ago
@AmiralPatate For most locations in the northern hemisphere, this would require that all the coworkers arrive quite early in the day (eating before 6am in my location right now)...
– user3067860
4 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
Thank you for your comment, I think I will be delaying it rather than evening time as the fasting ends at 9pm.
– Umut Esen
11 hours ago
I like this. Also you can ask for alternatives from lunch. Depending on age and what sort of job, maybe a fun hour doing something nearby like arcade or going to the park.
– Dan
7 hours ago
@UmutEsen You might also consider a breakfast thing, especially if you have leftovers from the morning meal. A friend brought some leftover pastries one year, his approval rating went through the roof.
– AmiralPatate
7 hours ago
That is a great point. It might even make people remember that Ramadan takes place and might delay all other lunches to avoid these type of situations.
– Aziris Morora
5 hours ago
@AmiralPatate For most locations in the northern hemisphere, this would require that all the coworkers arrive quite early in the day (eating before 6am in my location right now)...
– user3067860
4 hours ago
Thank you for your comment, I think I will be delaying it rather than evening time as the fasting ends at 9pm.
– Umut Esen
11 hours ago
Thank you for your comment, I think I will be delaying it rather than evening time as the fasting ends at 9pm.
– Umut Esen
11 hours ago
I like this. Also you can ask for alternatives from lunch. Depending on age and what sort of job, maybe a fun hour doing something nearby like arcade or going to the park.
– Dan
7 hours ago
I like this. Also you can ask for alternatives from lunch. Depending on age and what sort of job, maybe a fun hour doing something nearby like arcade or going to the park.
– Dan
7 hours ago
@UmutEsen You might also consider a breakfast thing, especially if you have leftovers from the morning meal. A friend brought some leftover pastries one year, his approval rating went through the roof.
– AmiralPatate
7 hours ago
@UmutEsen You might also consider a breakfast thing, especially if you have leftovers from the morning meal. A friend brought some leftover pastries one year, his approval rating went through the roof.
– AmiralPatate
7 hours ago
That is a great point. It might even make people remember that Ramadan takes place and might delay all other lunches to avoid these type of situations.
– Aziris Morora
5 hours ago
That is a great point. It might even make people remember that Ramadan takes place and might delay all other lunches to avoid these type of situations.
– Aziris Morora
5 hours ago
@AmiralPatate For most locations in the northern hemisphere, this would require that all the coworkers arrive quite early in the day (eating before 6am in my location right now)...
– user3067860
4 hours ago
@AmiralPatate For most locations in the northern hemisphere, this would require that all the coworkers arrive quite early in the day (eating before 6am in my location right now)...
– user3067860
4 hours ago
|
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As Snow suggests, observing your religion in this way isn't rude - and asking for a delay isn't a big deal but if it's not feasible that doesn't mean you have to cancel or postpone the lunch.
The point of such a "welcome lunch" isn't really about you eating or drinking things - it's about getting to know your new colleagues in an environment that is less formal than the office or a meeting. You could quite easily fulfill the purpose of doing this by attending and not eating or drinking.
15
Well I always find it a bit awkward when 1 of the guests doesn't eat at the restaurant, both for that guest and the others who are actually eating.
– Laurent S.
11 hours ago
7
+1 for attending and not eating or drinking. People have different beliefs, this way you can still meet the team but you're not forcing people who don't hold the same beliefs as you to change plans while still observing your own religion.
– Old Nick
8 hours ago
15
Attending a restaurant when you are hungry and thirsty is not my idea of fun. The OP may have different views of course. (Remember, strict observance of Ramadan requires nil-by-mouth after sunrise.)
– Martin Bonner
8 hours ago
2
@LaurentS. well, you shouldn't; I don't know how else to put it. Would you feel awkward going to a theme park and not going on a ride; or going to a shop and not buying anything; or going to a petting zoo and not touching an animal? Life is too short to feel awkward because you're doing something which you THINK is a little different, but is actually perfectly normal.
– UKMonkey
8 hours ago
1
@OldNick If it's really a "welcome lunch" for someone, it's not super cool to have the person of honor be stuck watching everyone else eat.
– Azor Ahai
4 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
As Snow suggests, observing your religion in this way isn't rude - and asking for a delay isn't a big deal but if it's not feasible that doesn't mean you have to cancel or postpone the lunch.
The point of such a "welcome lunch" isn't really about you eating or drinking things - it's about getting to know your new colleagues in an environment that is less formal than the office or a meeting. You could quite easily fulfill the purpose of doing this by attending and not eating or drinking.
15
Well I always find it a bit awkward when 1 of the guests doesn't eat at the restaurant, both for that guest and the others who are actually eating.
– Laurent S.
11 hours ago
7
+1 for attending and not eating or drinking. People have different beliefs, this way you can still meet the team but you're not forcing people who don't hold the same beliefs as you to change plans while still observing your own religion.
– Old Nick
8 hours ago
15
Attending a restaurant when you are hungry and thirsty is not my idea of fun. The OP may have different views of course. (Remember, strict observance of Ramadan requires nil-by-mouth after sunrise.)
– Martin Bonner
8 hours ago
2
@LaurentS. well, you shouldn't; I don't know how else to put it. Would you feel awkward going to a theme park and not going on a ride; or going to a shop and not buying anything; or going to a petting zoo and not touching an animal? Life is too short to feel awkward because you're doing something which you THINK is a little different, but is actually perfectly normal.
– UKMonkey
8 hours ago
1
@OldNick If it's really a "welcome lunch" for someone, it's not super cool to have the person of honor be stuck watching everyone else eat.
– Azor Ahai
4 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
As Snow suggests, observing your religion in this way isn't rude - and asking for a delay isn't a big deal but if it's not feasible that doesn't mean you have to cancel or postpone the lunch.
The point of such a "welcome lunch" isn't really about you eating or drinking things - it's about getting to know your new colleagues in an environment that is less formal than the office or a meeting. You could quite easily fulfill the purpose of doing this by attending and not eating or drinking.
As Snow suggests, observing your religion in this way isn't rude - and asking for a delay isn't a big deal but if it's not feasible that doesn't mean you have to cancel or postpone the lunch.
The point of such a "welcome lunch" isn't really about you eating or drinking things - it's about getting to know your new colleagues in an environment that is less formal than the office or a meeting. You could quite easily fulfill the purpose of doing this by attending and not eating or drinking.
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Well I always find it a bit awkward when 1 of the guests doesn't eat at the restaurant, both for that guest and the others who are actually eating.
– Laurent S.
11 hours ago
7
+1 for attending and not eating or drinking. People have different beliefs, this way you can still meet the team but you're not forcing people who don't hold the same beliefs as you to change plans while still observing your own religion.
– Old Nick
8 hours ago
15
Attending a restaurant when you are hungry and thirsty is not my idea of fun. The OP may have different views of course. (Remember, strict observance of Ramadan requires nil-by-mouth after sunrise.)
– Martin Bonner
8 hours ago
2
@LaurentS. well, you shouldn't; I don't know how else to put it. Would you feel awkward going to a theme park and not going on a ride; or going to a shop and not buying anything; or going to a petting zoo and not touching an animal? Life is too short to feel awkward because you're doing something which you THINK is a little different, but is actually perfectly normal.
– UKMonkey
8 hours ago
1
@OldNick If it's really a "welcome lunch" for someone, it's not super cool to have the person of honor be stuck watching everyone else eat.
– Azor Ahai
4 hours ago
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Well I always find it a bit awkward when 1 of the guests doesn't eat at the restaurant, both for that guest and the others who are actually eating.
– Laurent S.
11 hours ago
7
+1 for attending and not eating or drinking. People have different beliefs, this way you can still meet the team but you're not forcing people who don't hold the same beliefs as you to change plans while still observing your own religion.
– Old Nick
8 hours ago
15
Attending a restaurant when you are hungry and thirsty is not my idea of fun. The OP may have different views of course. (Remember, strict observance of Ramadan requires nil-by-mouth after sunrise.)
– Martin Bonner
8 hours ago
2
@LaurentS. well, you shouldn't; I don't know how else to put it. Would you feel awkward going to a theme park and not going on a ride; or going to a shop and not buying anything; or going to a petting zoo and not touching an animal? Life is too short to feel awkward because you're doing something which you THINK is a little different, but is actually perfectly normal.
– UKMonkey
8 hours ago
1
@OldNick If it's really a "welcome lunch" for someone, it's not super cool to have the person of honor be stuck watching everyone else eat.
– Azor Ahai
4 hours ago
15
15
Well I always find it a bit awkward when 1 of the guests doesn't eat at the restaurant, both for that guest and the others who are actually eating.
– Laurent S.
11 hours ago
Well I always find it a bit awkward when 1 of the guests doesn't eat at the restaurant, both for that guest and the others who are actually eating.
– Laurent S.
11 hours ago
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7
+1 for attending and not eating or drinking. People have different beliefs, this way you can still meet the team but you're not forcing people who don't hold the same beliefs as you to change plans while still observing your own religion.
– Old Nick
8 hours ago
+1 for attending and not eating or drinking. People have different beliefs, this way you can still meet the team but you're not forcing people who don't hold the same beliefs as you to change plans while still observing your own religion.
– Old Nick
8 hours ago
15
15
Attending a restaurant when you are hungry and thirsty is not my idea of fun. The OP may have different views of course. (Remember, strict observance of Ramadan requires nil-by-mouth after sunrise.)
– Martin Bonner
8 hours ago
Attending a restaurant when you are hungry and thirsty is not my idea of fun. The OP may have different views of course. (Remember, strict observance of Ramadan requires nil-by-mouth after sunrise.)
– Martin Bonner
8 hours ago
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2
@LaurentS. well, you shouldn't; I don't know how else to put it. Would you feel awkward going to a theme park and not going on a ride; or going to a shop and not buying anything; or going to a petting zoo and not touching an animal? Life is too short to feel awkward because you're doing something which you THINK is a little different, but is actually perfectly normal.
– UKMonkey
8 hours ago
@LaurentS. well, you shouldn't; I don't know how else to put it. Would you feel awkward going to a theme park and not going on a ride; or going to a shop and not buying anything; or going to a petting zoo and not touching an animal? Life is too short to feel awkward because you're doing something which you THINK is a little different, but is actually perfectly normal.
– UKMonkey
8 hours ago
1
1
@OldNick If it's really a "welcome lunch" for someone, it's not super cool to have the person of honor be stuck watching everyone else eat.
– Azor Ahai
4 hours ago
@OldNick If it's really a "welcome lunch" for someone, it's not super cool to have the person of honor be stuck watching everyone else eat.
– Azor Ahai
4 hours ago
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I suggest that it's not necessary to explain why you can't make it to lunch. You can decline and suggest an alternate date.
For example, you might say "I'm grateful for the warm welcome you're all giving me here at CompanyName. Your offer for the welcome lunch is very kind, but I'm afraid I won't be able to accept until after [specific date]."
There are some things that don't need to be discussed in the workplace, such as medical issues, home life, religion and so on.
For example, you might not be able to attend a lunch because:
- You're fasting for religious reasons
- You're preparing for a medical procedure that requires a specific diet
- You want to remain available so that you're on call to tend to an ailing relative
- You have a special diet because you're trying to make some weight loss goal
- etc etc etc
The key is that you don't need to explain why you're declining the invitation. Explain that you won't be able to go, thank them for the offer, and also give a timeframe when you would be able to in the future. If they can't reschedule, that's fine.
None of this is to say that one should hide their religion. It's simply that it's not necessary to explain your reasons when declining an invitation if you don't want to, and even moreso when the reasons are related to things that are typically left private at work.
Although I think it would be better to give the reason for declining the invitation (or asking that it be postponed), I agree that there's no obligation to do so.
– Andreas Blass
19 mins ago
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I suggest that it's not necessary to explain why you can't make it to lunch. You can decline and suggest an alternate date.
For example, you might say "I'm grateful for the warm welcome you're all giving me here at CompanyName. Your offer for the welcome lunch is very kind, but I'm afraid I won't be able to accept until after [specific date]."
There are some things that don't need to be discussed in the workplace, such as medical issues, home life, religion and so on.
For example, you might not be able to attend a lunch because:
- You're fasting for religious reasons
- You're preparing for a medical procedure that requires a specific diet
- You want to remain available so that you're on call to tend to an ailing relative
- You have a special diet because you're trying to make some weight loss goal
- etc etc etc
The key is that you don't need to explain why you're declining the invitation. Explain that you won't be able to go, thank them for the offer, and also give a timeframe when you would be able to in the future. If they can't reschedule, that's fine.
None of this is to say that one should hide their religion. It's simply that it's not necessary to explain your reasons when declining an invitation if you don't want to, and even moreso when the reasons are related to things that are typically left private at work.
Although I think it would be better to give the reason for declining the invitation (or asking that it be postponed), I agree that there's no obligation to do so.
– Andreas Blass
19 mins ago
add a comment |
I suggest that it's not necessary to explain why you can't make it to lunch. You can decline and suggest an alternate date.
For example, you might say "I'm grateful for the warm welcome you're all giving me here at CompanyName. Your offer for the welcome lunch is very kind, but I'm afraid I won't be able to accept until after [specific date]."
There are some things that don't need to be discussed in the workplace, such as medical issues, home life, religion and so on.
For example, you might not be able to attend a lunch because:
- You're fasting for religious reasons
- You're preparing for a medical procedure that requires a specific diet
- You want to remain available so that you're on call to tend to an ailing relative
- You have a special diet because you're trying to make some weight loss goal
- etc etc etc
The key is that you don't need to explain why you're declining the invitation. Explain that you won't be able to go, thank them for the offer, and also give a timeframe when you would be able to in the future. If they can't reschedule, that's fine.
None of this is to say that one should hide their religion. It's simply that it's not necessary to explain your reasons when declining an invitation if you don't want to, and even moreso when the reasons are related to things that are typically left private at work.
I suggest that it's not necessary to explain why you can't make it to lunch. You can decline and suggest an alternate date.
For example, you might say "I'm grateful for the warm welcome you're all giving me here at CompanyName. Your offer for the welcome lunch is very kind, but I'm afraid I won't be able to accept until after [specific date]."
There are some things that don't need to be discussed in the workplace, such as medical issues, home life, religion and so on.
For example, you might not be able to attend a lunch because:
- You're fasting for religious reasons
- You're preparing for a medical procedure that requires a specific diet
- You want to remain available so that you're on call to tend to an ailing relative
- You have a special diet because you're trying to make some weight loss goal
- etc etc etc
The key is that you don't need to explain why you're declining the invitation. Explain that you won't be able to go, thank them for the offer, and also give a timeframe when you would be able to in the future. If they can't reschedule, that's fine.
None of this is to say that one should hide their religion. It's simply that it's not necessary to explain your reasons when declining an invitation if you don't want to, and even moreso when the reasons are related to things that are typically left private at work.
answered 56 mins ago
Andy LesterAndy Lester
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Although I think it would be better to give the reason for declining the invitation (or asking that it be postponed), I agree that there's no obligation to do so.
– Andreas Blass
19 mins ago
add a comment |
Although I think it would be better to give the reason for declining the invitation (or asking that it be postponed), I agree that there's no obligation to do so.
– Andreas Blass
19 mins ago
Although I think it would be better to give the reason for declining the invitation (or asking that it be postponed), I agree that there's no obligation to do so.
– Andreas Blass
19 mins ago
Although I think it would be better to give the reason for declining the invitation (or asking that it be postponed), I agree that there's no obligation to do so.
– Andreas Blass
19 mins ago
add a comment |
As someone else already mentioned, yes you are embarrassing yourself. Religion is a private matter and has no room at work. If you wanna engage in superstition, communism or whatever you do it outside of work, like you would with any other hobby.
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Eating lunch isn't part of work so i fail to see how this is a relevant answer. (Plus, superstition and communism? wut)
– Azor Ahai
24 mins ago
A welcome lunch is part of work. What's it you don't understand about superstition and communism?
– hensti
2 mins ago
There's no world where having to eat lunch is a requirement of being on the job. It's absurd to say someone has to eat because their coworkers are eating. And I'm curious why you've listed them together
– Azor Ahai
18 secs ago
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As someone else already mentioned, yes you are embarrassing yourself. Religion is a private matter and has no room at work. If you wanna engage in superstition, communism or whatever you do it outside of work, like you would with any other hobby.
1
Eating lunch isn't part of work so i fail to see how this is a relevant answer. (Plus, superstition and communism? wut)
– Azor Ahai
24 mins ago
A welcome lunch is part of work. What's it you don't understand about superstition and communism?
– hensti
2 mins ago
There's no world where having to eat lunch is a requirement of being on the job. It's absurd to say someone has to eat because their coworkers are eating. And I'm curious why you've listed them together
– Azor Ahai
18 secs ago
add a comment |
As someone else already mentioned, yes you are embarrassing yourself. Religion is a private matter and has no room at work. If you wanna engage in superstition, communism or whatever you do it outside of work, like you would with any other hobby.
As someone else already mentioned, yes you are embarrassing yourself. Religion is a private matter and has no room at work. If you wanna engage in superstition, communism or whatever you do it outside of work, like you would with any other hobby.
answered 27 mins ago
henstihensti
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Eating lunch isn't part of work so i fail to see how this is a relevant answer. (Plus, superstition and communism? wut)
– Azor Ahai
24 mins ago
A welcome lunch is part of work. What's it you don't understand about superstition and communism?
– hensti
2 mins ago
There's no world where having to eat lunch is a requirement of being on the job. It's absurd to say someone has to eat because their coworkers are eating. And I'm curious why you've listed them together
– Azor Ahai
18 secs ago
add a comment |
1
Eating lunch isn't part of work so i fail to see how this is a relevant answer. (Plus, superstition and communism? wut)
– Azor Ahai
24 mins ago
A welcome lunch is part of work. What's it you don't understand about superstition and communism?
– hensti
2 mins ago
There's no world where having to eat lunch is a requirement of being on the job. It's absurd to say someone has to eat because their coworkers are eating. And I'm curious why you've listed them together
– Azor Ahai
18 secs ago
1
1
Eating lunch isn't part of work so i fail to see how this is a relevant answer. (Plus, superstition and communism? wut)
– Azor Ahai
24 mins ago
Eating lunch isn't part of work so i fail to see how this is a relevant answer. (Plus, superstition and communism? wut)
– Azor Ahai
24 mins ago
A welcome lunch is part of work. What's it you don't understand about superstition and communism?
– hensti
2 mins ago
A welcome lunch is part of work. What's it you don't understand about superstition and communism?
– hensti
2 mins ago
There's no world where having to eat lunch is a requirement of being on the job. It's absurd to say someone has to eat because their coworkers are eating. And I'm curious why you've listed them together
– Azor Ahai
18 secs ago
There's no world where having to eat lunch is a requirement of being on the job. It's absurd to say someone has to eat because their coworkers are eating. And I'm curious why you've listed them together
– Azor Ahai
18 secs ago
add a comment |
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As a boss, I can tell you that if anything, I would be the one embarrassed about this. I should have been more aware of the situation, and I would be embarrassed for not thinking about this in the first place. Just kindly remind your boss that it is Ramadan, and I am sure that they will be accommodating.
– bremen_matt
7 hours ago
5
Is the team lunch a welcome lunch for you or is it a regular activity that you're now invited to as a member of the team?
– Alexandre Aubrey
7 hours ago
14
@bremen_matt: Why would you be embarrassed? Religion should be a choice, at least in theory. In many countries, it would be illegal to ask candidates about their religion or lack thereof.
– Eric Duminil
6 hours ago
12
@AlexandreAubrey The lunch was specifically arranged for me. They were happy to delay it by a month.
– Umut Esen
6 hours ago
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@UmutEsen Is it possible that you could just go and socialize without eating?
– user4574
3 hours ago