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I just want to make sure I've translated these correctly:

1) I want to say:

Love makes the sweetest and most delicate adversities in life.

I render it in French as follows:

L'amour fait les plus douces et les plus sensibles infortunes de la vie.

2) I want to say:

Without (the slightest) hope of return

I render it in French as:

Sans espoir de retour.

3) I also wanted to ask (as this is for a poem) is it okay to say the mixed language sentence:

Love should be a gift sans espoir de retour!

traduction anglais

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I just want to make sure I've translated these correctly:

1) I want to say:

Love makes the sweetest and most delicate adversities in life.

I render it in French as follows:

L'amour fait les plus douces et les plus sensibles infortunes de la vie.

2) I want to say:

Without (the slightest) hope of return

I render it in French as:

Sans espoir de retour.

3) I also wanted to ask (as this is for a poem) is it okay to say the mixed language sentence:

Love should be a gift sans espoir de retour!

traduction anglais

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  I edited your question. Note that contrary to French, there is not a space between the word and the ponctuation signs.
  
  – dimitris
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

I just want to make sure I've translated these correctly:

1) I want to say:

Love makes the sweetest and most delicate adversities in life.

I render it in French as follows:

L'amour fait les plus douces et les plus sensibles infortunes de la vie.

2) I want to say:

Without (the slightest) hope of return

I render it in French as:

Sans espoir de retour.

3) I also wanted to ask (as this is for a poem) is it okay to say the mixed language sentence:

Love should be a gift sans espoir de retour!

traduction anglais

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"1)" is correct;

I wonder whether "make for" wouldn't be a more appropriate verb; it correspond fairly well to the choice I made in French : you couldn't use "faire" in French.

"Sans espoir de retour" is perfect.

Well, mixing languages is fine as long as there is a common understanding; first of all you have to be understood. As "sans espoir de retour" does not introduce a new concept, as its English equivalent is exact there is no need for that ; however if there exists a particular context involving French culture you can do that; it was Edgar Allan Poe who could do that in his work and as a matter of fact in connection with French; he would put in whole sentences, as for instance in his short story "The Murders in The Rue Morgue".

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  hmm I wasn't expecting it to be so drastically different for (1) I actually got it from herehttps://frenchtogether.com/french-love-quotes/ but tried to make a few adjustments so it would rhyme with bloomed on the 10th syllable and be on the 20th . what does the link actually say ( its the Madeleine de Scudery quote about a quarter down the page )
  
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  also is there any way to express the sentence you gave with the restriction on rhyme I mentioned ?
  
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  @can'tcauchy I see one part of the problem; I thought "doucers" couldn't be anything eles than the adjective and the "missing "grandes" didn't help to clear out that erroneous deduction. I don't get your syllable count (don't understand it).
  
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  @can'tcauchy You can use this construction: " L'amour fait les plus douces et les plus sensibles infortunes de la vie.", but of course you modify the quote.
  
  – LPH
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  on the tenth syllable of the sentence I want a long ooo sound like plus as this then rhyme with bloomed, on the twentieth syllable of the sentence I want an eeee seound like vie , so it rhymes with be
  
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"1)" is correct;

I wonder whether "make for" wouldn't be a more appropriate verb; it correspond fairly well to the choice I made in French : you couldn't use "faire" in French.

"Sans espoir de retour" is perfect.

Well, mixing languages is fine as long as there is a common understanding; first of all you have to be understood. As "sans espoir de retour" does not introduce a new concept, as its English equivalent is exact there is no need for that ; however if there exists a particular context involving French culture you can do that; it was Edgar Allan Poe who could do that in his work and as a matter of fact in connection with French; he would put in whole sentences, as for instance in his short story "The Murders in The Rue Morgue".

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• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  hmm I wasn't expecting it to be so drastically different for (1) I actually got it from herehttps://frenchtogether.com/french-love-quotes/ but tried to make a few adjustments so it would rhyme with bloomed on the 10th syllable and be on the 20th . what does the link actually say ( its the Madeleine de Scudery quote about a quarter down the page )
  
  – can'tcauchy
  4 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  also is there any way to express the sentence you gave with the restriction on rhyme I mentioned ?
  
  – can'tcauchy
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @can'tcauchy I see one part of the problem; I thought "doucers" couldn't be anything eles than the adjective and the "missing "grandes" didn't help to clear out that erroneous deduction. I don't get your syllable count (don't understand it).
  
  – LPH
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @can'tcauchy You can use this construction: " L'amour fait les plus douces et les plus sensibles infortunes de la vie.", but of course you modify the quote.
  
  – LPH
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  on the tenth syllable of the sentence I want a long ooo sound like plus as this then rhyme with bloomed, on the twentieth syllable of the sentence I want an eeee seound like vie , so it rhymes with be
  
  – can'tcauchy
  1 hour ago
  

  
  
  
  

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"1)" is correct;

I wonder whether "make for" wouldn't be a more appropriate verb; it correspond fairly well to the choice I made in French : you couldn't use "faire" in French.

"Sans espoir de retour" is perfect.

Well, mixing languages is fine as long as there is a common understanding; first of all you have to be understood. As "sans espoir de retour" does not introduce a new concept, as its English equivalent is exact there is no need for that ; however if there exists a particular context involving French culture you can do that; it was Edgar Allan Poe who could do that in his work and as a matter of fact in connection with French; he would put in whole sentences, as for instance in his short story "The Murders in The Rue Morgue".

share|improve this answer

edited 1 hour ago

dimitris

7,2642628

answered 4 hours ago

LPHLPH

8,633421

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  hmm I wasn't expecting it to be so drastically different for (1) I actually got it from herehttps://frenchtogether.com/french-love-quotes/ but tried to make a few adjustments so it would rhyme with bloomed on the 10th syllable and be on the 20th . what does the link actually say ( its the Madeleine de Scudery quote about a quarter down the page )
  
  – can'tcauchy
  4 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  also is there any way to express the sentence you gave with the restriction on rhyme I mentioned ?
  
  – can'tcauchy
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @can'tcauchy I see one part of the problem; I thought "doucers" couldn't be anything eles than the adjective and the "missing "grandes" didn't help to clear out that erroneous deduction. I don't get your syllable count (don't understand it).
  
  – LPH
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @can'tcauchy You can use this construction: " L'amour fait les plus douces et les plus sensibles infortunes de la vie.", but of course you modify the quote.
  
  – LPH
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  on the tenth syllable of the sentence I want a long ooo sound like plus as this then rhyme with bloomed, on the twentieth syllable of the sentence I want an eeee seound like vie , so it rhymes with be
  
  – can'tcauchy
  1 hour ago
  

  
  
  
  

 | 
show 2 more comments

"1)" is correct;

I wonder whether "make for" wouldn't be a more appropriate verb; it correspond fairly well to the choice I made in French : you couldn't use "faire" in French.

"Sans espoir de retour" is perfect.

Well, mixing languages is fine as long as there is a common understanding; first of all you have to be understood. As "sans espoir de retour" does not introduce a new concept, as its English equivalent is exact there is no need for that ; however if there exists a particular context involving French culture you can do that; it was Edgar Allan Poe who could do that in his work and as a matter of fact in connection with French; he would put in whole sentences, as for instance in his short story "The Murders in The Rue Morgue".

share|improve this answer

edited 1 hour ago

dimitris

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answered 4 hours ago

LPHLPH

8,633421

share|improve this answer

edited 1 hour ago

dimitris

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answered 4 hours ago

LPHLPH

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edited 1 hour ago

dimitris

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edited 1 hour ago

dimitris

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answered 4 hours ago

LPHLPH

8,633421

answered 4 hours ago

LPHLPH

8,633421