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That scenario only makes sense if your airplane stays at cruising altitude, although taxi and takeoff does use up fuel it's really the ascent to cruise that takes the most. You aren't really going to be able to drop cargo accurately from cruising altitude, so you'll have descend pretty low, then you'll need to climb out again, and that would suck up lots of fuel and make it much less efficient a method of delivery.

Add to that the weight and cost of the parachute mechanisms as well as the massive protective packaging the cargo would need to survive the jolt (2-3 Gs when it hits the ground) and the whole thing becomes pretty uneconomical.

The military only air drops cargo when there's no other alternative, now you know why.

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Looking purely at operational cost of the aircraft, yes. You save time, burn less fuel, don't have to pay for the landing etc.

But dropping the cargo makes the cargo more expensive. You have to provide parachutes (and return them after use, inspect them etc). You have to combine cargo into parachute loads. You have to package the cargo for a hard landing, getting pulled over on its side by the parachute after landing etc.

You have to use an aircraft suited for airborne dropping (i.e. with a tail ramp). Commercial cargo aircraft usually don't have one, so you have to switch to more expensive military aircraft (Hercules, C-17).

And occasionally a parachute won't work and the cargo will dig a crater.

You can also go for low-altitude horizontal extraction, but that also has its cost, and entertaining failure modes.

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  Good summary, I'd add to this many cargoes can't handle the g forces from landing, even with chutes it's still a few Gs.
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  Note that the OP specified in the question that the plane doing the land-unload-takeoff is more fuel-efficient than the plane doing the drop. So, the question which of the two options im more fuel-efficient cannot be answered other than "it depends on how much more fuel-efficient the other plane is".
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That scenario only makes sense if your airplane stays at cruising altitude, although taxi and takeoff does use up fuel it's really the ascent to cruise that takes the most. You aren't really going to be able to drop cargo accurately from cruising altitude, so you'll have descend pretty low, then you'll need to climb out again, and that would suck up lots of fuel and make it much less efficient a method of delivery.

Add to that the weight and cost of the parachute mechanisms as well as the massive protective packaging the cargo would need to survive the jolt (2-3 Gs when it hits the ground) and the whole thing becomes pretty uneconomical.

The military only air drops cargo when there's no other alternative, now you know why.

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answered 5 hours ago

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  Precision high-altitude drops to within 50-75m using GPS-guided steerable parachutes are a thing..
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  – Jörg W Mittag
  4 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  

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That scenario only makes sense if your airplane stays at cruising altitude, although taxi and takeoff does use up fuel it's really the ascent to cruise that takes the most. You aren't really going to be able to drop cargo accurately from cruising altitude, so you'll have descend pretty low, then you'll need to climb out again, and that would suck up lots of fuel and make it much less efficient a method of delivery.

Add to that the weight and cost of the parachute mechanisms as well as the massive protective packaging the cargo would need to survive the jolt (2-3 Gs when it hits the ground) and the whole thing becomes pretty uneconomical.

The military only air drops cargo when there's no other alternative, now you know why.

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answered 5 hours ago

GdDGdD

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  Precision high-altitude drops to within 50-75m using GPS-guided steerable parachutes are a thing..
  $endgroup$
  – Jörg W Mittag
  4 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  

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$begingroup$

That scenario only makes sense if your airplane stays at cruising altitude, although taxi and takeoff does use up fuel it's really the ascent to cruise that takes the most. You aren't really going to be able to drop cargo accurately from cruising altitude, so you'll have descend pretty low, then you'll need to climb out again, and that would suck up lots of fuel and make it much less efficient a method of delivery.

Add to that the weight and cost of the parachute mechanisms as well as the massive protective packaging the cargo would need to survive the jolt (2-3 Gs when it hits the ground) and the whole thing becomes pretty uneconomical.

The military only air drops cargo when there's no other alternative, now you know why.

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answered 5 hours ago

GdDGdD

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GdDGdD

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GdDGdD

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answered 5 hours ago

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Looking purely at operational cost of the aircraft, yes. You save time, burn less fuel, don't have to pay for the landing etc.

But dropping the cargo makes the cargo more expensive. You have to provide parachutes (and return them after use, inspect them etc). You have to combine cargo into parachute loads. You have to package the cargo for a hard landing, getting pulled over on its side by the parachute after landing etc.

You have to use an aircraft suited for airborne dropping (i.e. with a tail ramp). Commercial cargo aircraft usually don't have one, so you have to switch to more expensive military aircraft (Hercules, C-17).

And occasionally a parachute won't work and the cargo will dig a crater.

You can also go for low-altitude horizontal extraction, but that also has its cost, and entertaining failure modes.

share|improve this answer

answered 8 hours ago

HobbesHobbes

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  Good summary, I'd add to this many cargoes can't handle the g forces from landing, even with chutes it's still a few Gs.
  $endgroup$
  – GdD
  5 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  $begingroup$
  Note that the OP specified in the question that the plane doing the land-unload-takeoff is more fuel-efficient than the plane doing the drop. So, the question which of the two options im more fuel-efficient cannot be answered other than "it depends on how much more fuel-efficient the other plane is".
  $endgroup$
  – Jörg W Mittag
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

6

$begingroup$

Looking purely at operational cost of the aircraft, yes. You save time, burn less fuel, don't have to pay for the landing etc.

But dropping the cargo makes the cargo more expensive. You have to provide parachutes (and return them after use, inspect them etc). You have to combine cargo into parachute loads. You have to package the cargo for a hard landing, getting pulled over on its side by the parachute after landing etc.

You have to use an aircraft suited for airborne dropping (i.e. with a tail ramp). Commercial cargo aircraft usually don't have one, so you have to switch to more expensive military aircraft (Hercules, C-17).

And occasionally a parachute won't work and the cargo will dig a crater.

You can also go for low-altitude horizontal extraction, but that also has its cost, and entertaining failure modes.

share|improve this answer

answered 8 hours ago

HobbesHobbes

4,7801318

$endgroup$

• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  $begingroup$
  Good summary, I'd add to this many cargoes can't handle the g forces from landing, even with chutes it's still a few Gs.
  $endgroup$
  – GdD
  5 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  $begingroup$
  Note that the OP specified in the question that the plane doing the land-unload-takeoff is more fuel-efficient than the plane doing the drop. So, the question which of the two options im more fuel-efficient cannot be answered other than "it depends on how much more fuel-efficient the other plane is".
  $endgroup$
  – Jörg W Mittag
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

$begingroup$

Looking purely at operational cost of the aircraft, yes. You save time, burn less fuel, don't have to pay for the landing etc.

But dropping the cargo makes the cargo more expensive. You have to provide parachutes (and return them after use, inspect them etc). You have to combine cargo into parachute loads. You have to package the cargo for a hard landing, getting pulled over on its side by the parachute after landing etc.

You have to use an aircraft suited for airborne dropping (i.e. with a tail ramp). Commercial cargo aircraft usually don't have one, so you have to switch to more expensive military aircraft (Hercules, C-17).

And occasionally a parachute won't work and the cargo will dig a crater.

You can also go for low-altitude horizontal extraction, but that also has its cost, and entertaining failure modes.

share|improve this answer

answered 8 hours ago

HobbesHobbes

4,7801318

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answered 8 hours ago

HobbesHobbes

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HobbesHobbes

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answered 8 hours ago

HobbesHobbes

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