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Historically, were women trained for obligatory wars? Or did they serve some other military function?
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Sotah 8:7 says that for obligatory wars all go out to fight, "even a bridegroom from his chamber and a bride from her canopy". Historically, was this in fact our practice? Did women participate in the conquest of the land (which Rabbi Yehudah says was an obligatory war) or in defending it before we were conquered and the temples destroyed? Did women fight alongside the men, or did they participate in ways that didn't involve fighting directly? If they fought, (how) were they trained?
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Sotah 8:7 says that for obligatory wars all go out to fight, "even a bridegroom from his chamber and a bride from her canopy". Historically, was this in fact our practice? Did women participate in the conquest of the land (which Rabbi Yehudah says was an obligatory war) or in defending it before we were conquered and the temples destroyed? Did women fight alongside the men, or did they participate in ways that didn't involve fighting directly? If they fought, (how) were they trained?
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Another such proof that only men went to war is from the passuk Devarim 20:8 "מי האיש הירא..." the passuk refers only to men.
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Sotah 8:7 says that for obligatory wars all go out to fight, "even a bridegroom from his chamber and a bride from her canopy". Historically, was this in fact our practice? Did women participate in the conquest of the land (which Rabbi Yehudah says was an obligatory war) or in defending it before we were conquered and the temples destroyed? Did women fight alongside the men, or did they participate in ways that didn't involve fighting directly? If they fought, (how) were they trained?
history women army-military-war tractate-sotah
asked 54 mins ago
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Sotah 8:7 says that for obligatory wars all go out to fight, "even a bridegroom from his chamber and a bride from her canopy". Historically, was this in fact our practice? Did women participate in the conquest of the land (which Rabbi Yehudah says was an obligatory war) or in defending it before we were conquered and the temples destroyed? Did women fight alongside the men, or did they participate in ways that didn't involve fighting directly? If they fought, (how) were they trained?
history women army-military-war tractate-sotah
history women army-military-war tractate-sotah
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Another such proof that only men went to war is from the passuk Devarim 20:8 "מי האיש הירא..." the passuk refers only to men.
– sam
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Another such proof that only men went to war is from the passuk Devarim 20:8 "מי האיש הירא..." the passuk refers only to men.
– sam
8 mins ago
Another such proof that only men went to war is from the passuk Devarim 20:8 "מי האיש הירא..." the passuk refers only to men.
– sam
8 mins ago
Another such proof that only men went to war is from the passuk Devarim 20:8 "מי האיש הירא..." the passuk refers only to men.
– sam
8 mins ago
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In his commentary to Rambam's codification of this law (Hilchot Melachim 7:5), R. David Ibn Zimra asks: Is it the way of women to wage war? And he cites the verse (Psalms 45:14) "All glorious is the king's daughter within the palace" in support of this. He then suggests that the women were (not actively fighting, but) supplying food and water to their husbands, and he notes that this is the current practice of the Arabs(?).
ברייתא כלשון רבינו אלא דקשה וכי דרך הנשים לעשות מלחמה דקתני וכלה מחופתה והא כתיב כל כבודה בת מלך פנימה וי"ל דה"ק כיון דחתן יוצא מחדרו כלה יוצאה מחופתה שאינה נוהגת ימי חופה ואפשר דבמלחמת מצוה הנשים היו מספקות מים ומזון לבעליהן וכן המנהג היום בערביות
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You beat me to it,was about to type this
– sam
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@sam ברוך שכוונתי
– Alex
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It also should be noted that according to the Rambam a woman may be able to fight durimg a milchmes mitzvah,but not reshus
– sam
16 mins ago
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Yachin:
אשה לאו בת מלחמה. רק לספק מזון ולתקן הדרכים אף היא יוצאת.
A woman is not able to combat, she did only provide food and repair roads.
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Thank you. Who/what is Yachin?
– Monica Cellio♦
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it is the comment Tiferet Israel on tne mishna who is divided in Yachin, for paraphrease and Boaz for extended discussions
– kouty
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In his commentary to Rambam's codification of this law (Hilchot Melachim 7:5), R. David Ibn Zimra asks: Is it the way of women to wage war? And he cites the verse (Psalms 45:14) "All glorious is the king's daughter within the palace" in support of this. He then suggests that the women were (not actively fighting, but) supplying food and water to their husbands, and he notes that this is the current practice of the Arabs(?).
ברייתא כלשון רבינו אלא דקשה וכי דרך הנשים לעשות מלחמה דקתני וכלה מחופתה והא כתיב כל כבודה בת מלך פנימה וי"ל דה"ק כיון דחתן יוצא מחדרו כלה יוצאה מחופתה שאינה נוהגת ימי חופה ואפשר דבמלחמת מצוה הנשים היו מספקות מים ומזון לבעליהן וכן המנהג היום בערביות
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AlexAlex
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You beat me to it,was about to type this
– sam
18 mins ago
@sam ברוך שכוונתי
– Alex
18 mins ago
It also should be noted that according to the Rambam a woman may be able to fight durimg a milchmes mitzvah,but not reshus
– sam
16 mins ago
add a comment |
In his commentary to Rambam's codification of this law (Hilchot Melachim 7:5), R. David Ibn Zimra asks: Is it the way of women to wage war? And he cites the verse (Psalms 45:14) "All glorious is the king's daughter within the palace" in support of this. He then suggests that the women were (not actively fighting, but) supplying food and water to their husbands, and he notes that this is the current practice of the Arabs(?).
ברייתא כלשון רבינו אלא דקשה וכי דרך הנשים לעשות מלחמה דקתני וכלה מחופתה והא כתיב כל כבודה בת מלך פנימה וי"ל דה"ק כיון דחתן יוצא מחדרו כלה יוצאה מחופתה שאינה נוהגת ימי חופה ואפשר דבמלחמת מצוה הנשים היו מספקות מים ומזון לבעליהן וכן המנהג היום בערביות
answered 22 mins ago
AlexAlex
24.3k157136
You beat me to it,was about to type this
– sam
18 mins ago
@sam ברוך שכוונתי
– Alex
18 mins ago
It also should be noted that according to the Rambam a woman may be able to fight durimg a milchmes mitzvah,but not reshus
– sam
16 mins ago
add a comment |
In his commentary to Rambam's codification of this law (Hilchot Melachim 7:5), R. David Ibn Zimra asks: Is it the way of women to wage war? And he cites the verse (Psalms 45:14) "All glorious is the king's daughter within the palace" in support of this. He then suggests that the women were (not actively fighting, but) supplying food and water to their husbands, and he notes that this is the current practice of the Arabs(?).
ברייתא כלשון רבינו אלא דקשה וכי דרך הנשים לעשות מלחמה דקתני וכלה מחופתה והא כתיב כל כבודה בת מלך פנימה וי"ל דה"ק כיון דחתן יוצא מחדרו כלה יוצאה מחופתה שאינה נוהגת ימי חופה ואפשר דבמלחמת מצוה הנשים היו מספקות מים ומזון לבעליהן וכן המנהג היום בערביות
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AlexAlex
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In his commentary to Rambam's codification of this law (Hilchot Melachim 7:5), R. David Ibn Zimra asks: Is it the way of women to wage war? And he cites the verse (Psalms 45:14) "All glorious is the king's daughter within the palace" in support of this. He then suggests that the women were (not actively fighting, but) supplying food and water to their husbands, and he notes that this is the current practice of the Arabs(?).
ברייתא כלשון רבינו אלא דקשה וכי דרך הנשים לעשות מלחמה דקתני וכלה מחופתה והא כתיב כל כבודה בת מלך פנימה וי"ל דה"ק כיון דחתן יוצא מחדרו כלה יוצאה מחופתה שאינה נוהגת ימי חופה ואפשר דבמלחמת מצוה הנשים היו מספקות מים ומזון לבעליהן וכן המנהג היום בערביות
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answered 22 mins ago
AlexAlex
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AlexAlex
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You beat me to it,was about to type this
– sam
18 mins ago
@sam ברוך שכוונתי
– Alex
18 mins ago
It also should be noted that according to the Rambam a woman may be able to fight durimg a milchmes mitzvah,but not reshus
– sam
16 mins ago
add a comment |
You beat me to it,was about to type this
– sam
18 mins ago
@sam ברוך שכוונתי
– Alex
18 mins ago
It also should be noted that according to the Rambam a woman may be able to fight durimg a milchmes mitzvah,but not reshus
– sam
16 mins ago
You beat me to it,was about to type this
– sam
18 mins ago
You beat me to it,was about to type this
– sam
18 mins ago
@sam ברוך שכוונתי
– Alex
18 mins ago
@sam ברוך שכוונתי
– Alex
18 mins ago
It also should be noted that according to the Rambam a woman may be able to fight durimg a milchmes mitzvah,but not reshus
– sam
16 mins ago
It also should be noted that according to the Rambam a woman may be able to fight durimg a milchmes mitzvah,but not reshus
– sam
16 mins ago
add a comment |
Yachin:
אשה לאו בת מלחמה. רק לספק מזון ולתקן הדרכים אף היא יוצאת.
A woman is not able to combat, she did only provide food and repair roads.
answered 9 mins ago
koutykouty
16.4k32048
Thank you. Who/what is Yachin?
– Monica Cellio♦
6 mins ago
it is the comment Tiferet Israel on tne mishna who is divided in Yachin, for paraphrease and Boaz for extended discussions
– kouty
4 mins ago
add a comment |
Yachin:
אשה לאו בת מלחמה. רק לספק מזון ולתקן הדרכים אף היא יוצאת.
A woman is not able to combat, she did only provide food and repair roads.
answered 9 mins ago
koutykouty
16.4k32048
Thank you. Who/what is Yachin?
– Monica Cellio♦
6 mins ago
it is the comment Tiferet Israel on tne mishna who is divided in Yachin, for paraphrease and Boaz for extended discussions
– kouty
4 mins ago
add a comment |
Yachin:
אשה לאו בת מלחמה. רק לספק מזון ולתקן הדרכים אף היא יוצאת.
A woman is not able to combat, she did only provide food and repair roads.
answered 9 mins ago
koutykouty
16.4k32048
Yachin:
אשה לאו בת מלחמה. רק לספק מזון ולתקן הדרכים אף היא יוצאת.
A woman is not able to combat, she did only provide food and repair roads.
answered 9 mins ago
koutykouty
16.4k32048
answered 9 mins ago
koutykouty
16.4k32048
answered 9 mins ago
koutykouty
16.4k32048
answered 9 mins ago
koutykouty
16.4k32048
16.4k32048
Thank you. Who/what is Yachin?
– Monica Cellio♦
6 mins ago
it is the comment Tiferet Israel on tne mishna who is divided in Yachin, for paraphrease and Boaz for extended discussions
– kouty
4 mins ago
add a comment |
Thank you. Who/what is Yachin?
– Monica Cellio♦
6 mins ago
it is the comment Tiferet Israel on tne mishna who is divided in Yachin, for paraphrease and Boaz for extended discussions
– kouty
4 mins ago
Thank you. Who/what is Yachin?
– Monica Cellio♦
6 mins ago
Thank you. Who/what is Yachin?
– Monica Cellio♦
6 mins ago
it is the comment Tiferet Israel on tne mishna who is divided in Yachin, for paraphrease and Boaz for extended discussions
– kouty
4 mins ago
it is the comment Tiferet Israel on tne mishna who is divided in Yachin, for paraphrease and Boaz for extended discussions
– kouty
4 mins ago
add a comment |
Another such proof that only men went to war is from the passuk Devarim 20:8 "מי האיש הירא..." the passuk refers only to men.
– sam
8 mins ago