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In Lord of the Rings, What is an Elf-Lord?
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95% of my knowledge regarding Lord of the Rings comes from reading Sci-Fi/Fantasy SE, so I apologize for my ignorance.
In many questions, I often see a powerful elf (Glorfindel, Elrond, Galadriel, etc.) described as an "elf-lord." At first I thought this was a general compliment/deference to their power, but then I noticed that it is capitalized in nearly all cases. It sounds awesome, but what exactly does this mean? How does one gain the title?
References: here and here.
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95% of my knowledge regarding Lord of the Rings comes from reading Sci-Fi/Fantasy SE, so I apologize for my ignorance.
In many questions, I often see a powerful elf (Glorfindel, Elrond, Galadriel, etc.) described as an "elf-lord." At first I thought this was a general compliment/deference to their power, but then I noticed that it is capitalized in nearly all cases. It sounds awesome, but what exactly does this mean? How does one gain the title?
References: here and here.
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I don't think we have evidence that it means anything in particular.
– Matt Gutting
May 11 '15 at 14:12
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Other words capitalized in Tolkien: Elf, Man, Dwarf, etc. Tolkien's modern English had not quite escaped from the Germanic habit of capitalizing most nouns. :) You can see this in much writing in English from the 19th century back.
– Lexible
May 11 '15 at 16:46
As interesting as that is, I meant that most people here capitalize the term, indicating that it has a special meaning to them. If this is because of Tolkien, however, I do not know.
– WannabeCoder
May 11 '15 at 17:08
@WannabeCoder: You are right, an Elf-Lord does not only mean a leader or a king, but a very powerful elf wizard-warrior. Glorfindel is not really a king or a leader, but he is one hell of an Elf-Lord... ;-)
– Joel
May 11 '15 at 21:07
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More precise than Elf-Lord there is lord of the Eldar."And here in Rivendell there live still some of his chief foes: the Elven-wise, lords of the Eldar from beyond the furthest seas. They do not fear the Ringwraiths, for those who have dwelt in the Blessed Realm live at once in both worlds, and against both the Seen and the Unseen they have great power."
– Bookeater
May 18 '15 at 6:38
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95% of my knowledge regarding Lord of the Rings comes from reading Sci-Fi/Fantasy SE, so I apologize for my ignorance.
In many questions, I often see a powerful elf (Glorfindel, Elrond, Galadriel, etc.) described as an "elf-lord." At first I thought this was a general compliment/deference to their power, but then I noticed that it is capitalized in nearly all cases. It sounds awesome, but what exactly does this mean? How does one gain the title?
References: here and here.
tolkiens-legendarium the-lord-of-the-rings elves
95% of my knowledge regarding Lord of the Rings comes from reading Sci-Fi/Fantasy SE, so I apologize for my ignorance.
In many questions, I often see a powerful elf (Glorfindel, Elrond, Galadriel, etc.) described as an "elf-lord." At first I thought this was a general compliment/deference to their power, but then I noticed that it is capitalized in nearly all cases. It sounds awesome, but what exactly does this mean? How does one gain the title?
References: here and here.
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I don't think we have evidence that it means anything in particular.
– Matt Gutting
May 11 '15 at 14:12
1
Other words capitalized in Tolkien: Elf, Man, Dwarf, etc. Tolkien's modern English had not quite escaped from the Germanic habit of capitalizing most nouns. :) You can see this in much writing in English from the 19th century back.
– Lexible
May 11 '15 at 16:46
As interesting as that is, I meant that most people here capitalize the term, indicating that it has a special meaning to them. If this is because of Tolkien, however, I do not know.
– WannabeCoder
May 11 '15 at 17:08
@WannabeCoder: You are right, an Elf-Lord does not only mean a leader or a king, but a very powerful elf wizard-warrior. Glorfindel is not really a king or a leader, but he is one hell of an Elf-Lord... ;-)
– Joel
May 11 '15 at 21:07
2
More precise than Elf-Lord there is lord of the Eldar."And here in Rivendell there live still some of his chief foes: the Elven-wise, lords of the Eldar from beyond the furthest seas. They do not fear the Ringwraiths, for those who have dwelt in the Blessed Realm live at once in both worlds, and against both the Seen and the Unseen they have great power."
– Bookeater
May 18 '15 at 6:38
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show 1 more comment
1
I don't think we have evidence that it means anything in particular.
– Matt Gutting
May 11 '15 at 14:12
1
Other words capitalized in Tolkien: Elf, Man, Dwarf, etc. Tolkien's modern English had not quite escaped from the Germanic habit of capitalizing most nouns. :) You can see this in much writing in English from the 19th century back.
– Lexible
May 11 '15 at 16:46
As interesting as that is, I meant that most people here capitalize the term, indicating that it has a special meaning to them. If this is because of Tolkien, however, I do not know.
– WannabeCoder
May 11 '15 at 17:08
@WannabeCoder: You are right, an Elf-Lord does not only mean a leader or a king, but a very powerful elf wizard-warrior. Glorfindel is not really a king or a leader, but he is one hell of an Elf-Lord... ;-)
– Joel
May 11 '15 at 21:07
2
More precise than Elf-Lord there is lord of the Eldar."And here in Rivendell there live still some of his chief foes: the Elven-wise, lords of the Eldar from beyond the furthest seas. They do not fear the Ringwraiths, for those who have dwelt in the Blessed Realm live at once in both worlds, and against both the Seen and the Unseen they have great power."
– Bookeater
May 18 '15 at 6:38
1
1
I don't think we have evidence that it means anything in particular.
– Matt Gutting
May 11 '15 at 14:12
I don't think we have evidence that it means anything in particular.
– Matt Gutting
May 11 '15 at 14:12
1
1
Other words capitalized in Tolkien: Elf, Man, Dwarf, etc. Tolkien's modern English had not quite escaped from the Germanic habit of capitalizing most nouns. :) You can see this in much writing in English from the 19th century back.
– Lexible
May 11 '15 at 16:46
Other words capitalized in Tolkien: Elf, Man, Dwarf, etc. Tolkien's modern English had not quite escaped from the Germanic habit of capitalizing most nouns. :) You can see this in much writing in English from the 19th century back.
– Lexible
May 11 '15 at 16:46
As interesting as that is, I meant that most people here capitalize the term, indicating that it has a special meaning to them. If this is because of Tolkien, however, I do not know.
– WannabeCoder
May 11 '15 at 17:08
As interesting as that is, I meant that most people here capitalize the term, indicating that it has a special meaning to them. If this is because of Tolkien, however, I do not know.
– WannabeCoder
May 11 '15 at 17:08
@WannabeCoder: You are right, an Elf-Lord does not only mean a leader or a king, but a very powerful elf wizard-warrior. Glorfindel is not really a king or a leader, but he is one hell of an Elf-Lord... ;-)
– Joel
May 11 '15 at 21:07
@WannabeCoder: You are right, an Elf-Lord does not only mean a leader or a king, but a very powerful elf wizard-warrior. Glorfindel is not really a king or a leader, but he is one hell of an Elf-Lord... ;-)
– Joel
May 11 '15 at 21:07
2
2
More precise than Elf-Lord there is lord of the Eldar.
"And here in Rivendell there live still some of his chief foes: the Elven-wise, lords of the Eldar from beyond the furthest seas. They do not fear the Ringwraiths, for those who have dwelt in the Blessed Realm live at once in both worlds, and against both the Seen and the Unseen they have great power."– Bookeater
May 18 '15 at 6:38
More precise than Elf-Lord there is lord of the Eldar.
"And here in Rivendell there live still some of his chief foes: the Elven-wise, lords of the Eldar from beyond the furthest seas. They do not fear the Ringwraiths, for those who have dwelt in the Blessed Realm live at once in both worlds, and against both the Seen and the Unseen they have great power."– Bookeater
May 18 '15 at 6:38
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In the Tolkien universe the title "Lord" when applied to an elf can mean a leader or king, or alternatively member of a noble house.
Examples are:
- Amroth, son of Amdír, Lord of Lórien also called King of Lórinand.
- Duilin, noble of Gondolin, lord of the House of the Swallow.
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Without being 100% about that :
I think that is the Elves who are offspring of Pure Elven Blood.
Elrod for example even if he is a half elf, he still carries the Elven Lord title
as son of 2 Pure Elves who are born in Vallinor (So they are Valars)
Although it is being used as a title (e.g. to Haldrid) as a form of exaggeration to
admiration.
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Elf Lord is a title bestowed on an Elf that is given an Elven Ring of Power. With the single exception of Gandalf.
Welcome to Science Fiction & Fantasy! Please cite source(s) demonstrating that this is the case.
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In the Tolkien universe the title "Lord" when applied to an elf can mean a leader or king, or alternatively member of a noble house.
Examples are:
- Amroth, son of Amdír, Lord of Lórien also called King of Lórinand.
- Duilin, noble of Gondolin, lord of the House of the Swallow.
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In the Tolkien universe the title "Lord" when applied to an elf can mean a leader or king, or alternatively member of a noble house.
Examples are:
- Amroth, son of Amdír, Lord of Lórien also called King of Lórinand.
- Duilin, noble of Gondolin, lord of the House of the Swallow.
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In the Tolkien universe the title "Lord" when applied to an elf can mean a leader or king, or alternatively member of a noble house.
Examples are:
- Amroth, son of Amdír, Lord of Lórien also called King of Lórinand.
- Duilin, noble of Gondolin, lord of the House of the Swallow.
In the Tolkien universe the title "Lord" when applied to an elf can mean a leader or king, or alternatively member of a noble house.
Examples are:
- Amroth, son of Amdír, Lord of Lórien also called King of Lórinand.
- Duilin, noble of Gondolin, lord of the House of the Swallow.
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Without being 100% about that :
I think that is the Elves who are offspring of Pure Elven Blood.
Elrod for example even if he is a half elf, he still carries the Elven Lord title
as son of 2 Pure Elves who are born in Vallinor (So they are Valars)
Although it is being used as a title (e.g. to Haldrid) as a form of exaggeration to
admiration.
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Without being 100% about that :
I think that is the Elves who are offspring of Pure Elven Blood.
Elrod for example even if he is a half elf, he still carries the Elven Lord title
as son of 2 Pure Elves who are born in Vallinor (So they are Valars)
Although it is being used as a title (e.g. to Haldrid) as a form of exaggeration to
admiration.
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Without being 100% about that :
I think that is the Elves who are offspring of Pure Elven Blood.
Elrod for example even if he is a half elf, he still carries the Elven Lord title
as son of 2 Pure Elves who are born in Vallinor (So they are Valars)
Although it is being used as a title (e.g. to Haldrid) as a form of exaggeration to
admiration.
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Without being 100% about that :
I think that is the Elves who are offspring of Pure Elven Blood.
Elrod for example even if he is a half elf, he still carries the Elven Lord title
as son of 2 Pure Elves who are born in Vallinor (So they are Valars)
Although it is being used as a title (e.g. to Haldrid) as a form of exaggeration to
admiration.
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Elf Lord is a title bestowed on an Elf that is given an Elven Ring of Power. With the single exception of Gandalf.
Welcome to Science Fiction & Fantasy! Please cite source(s) demonstrating that this is the case.
– Null♦
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Elf Lord is a title bestowed on an Elf that is given an Elven Ring of Power. With the single exception of Gandalf.
Welcome to Science Fiction & Fantasy! Please cite source(s) demonstrating that this is the case.
– Null♦
Jul 18 '16 at 23:41
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Elf Lord is a title bestowed on an Elf that is given an Elven Ring of Power. With the single exception of Gandalf.
Elf Lord is a title bestowed on an Elf that is given an Elven Ring of Power. With the single exception of Gandalf.
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I don't think we have evidence that it means anything in particular.
– Matt Gutting
May 11 '15 at 14:12
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Other words capitalized in Tolkien: Elf, Man, Dwarf, etc. Tolkien's modern English had not quite escaped from the Germanic habit of capitalizing most nouns. :) You can see this in much writing in English from the 19th century back.
– Lexible
May 11 '15 at 16:46
As interesting as that is, I meant that most people here capitalize the term, indicating that it has a special meaning to them. If this is because of Tolkien, however, I do not know.
– WannabeCoder
May 11 '15 at 17:08
@WannabeCoder: You are right, an Elf-Lord does not only mean a leader or a king, but a very powerful elf wizard-warrior. Glorfindel is not really a king or a leader, but he is one hell of an Elf-Lord... ;-)
– Joel
May 11 '15 at 21:07
2
More precise than Elf-Lord there is lord of the Eldar.
"And here in Rivendell there live still some of his chief foes: the Elven-wise, lords of the Eldar from beyond the furthest seas. They do not fear the Ringwraiths, for those who have dwelt in the Blessed Realm live at once in both worlds, and against both the Seen and the Unseen they have great power."– Bookeater
May 18 '15 at 6:38