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The plot of the film Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home revolves around the main characters traveling back in time from the 23rd century to 1986 in order to obtain and bring back a pair of humpback whales, which have become extinct at some point between the two points in time. The motivation is driven by a space probe traveling to Earth in the 23rd century and making a futile attempt to contact any existing whales - the probe's origin and, in particular, its creators are generally a mystery in the film, but evidently have some connection with humpback whales as a sentient species.
When the main characters travel back in time, a short and mysterious film sequence occurs, representing their journey in various cryptic ways - representations of the crewmembers' heads appearing in an eerie cloud of smoke, dialogue from later in the film, a reprentation of a human figure falling from space down to Earth as the crew arrive in 1986. Much of this is reasonably understandable, but one piece remains more of a mystery: through much of the sequence, the camera is traveling towards a mysterious figure, shown here:
This is the obvious focal point of much of the sequence, but it is never explained in the film whether or not this figure represents a specific object or a more general concept. However, it does appear (for lack of a better term) whale-ish without directly representing a humpback whale. A question that naturally follows is whether it represents something to do with the species that originally created the space probe, even potentially relating to their own appearance.
Has it been confirmed exactly what this figure is supposed to represent? Ideally in something related to film canon (e.g., descriptive shooting scripts, written novelization or comic adaptaion), but barring that, in any other relevant material (e.g., discussion of special effects design).
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The plot of the film Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home revolves around the main characters traveling back in time from the 23rd century to 1986 in order to obtain and bring back a pair of humpback whales, which have become extinct at some point between the two points in time. The motivation is driven by a space probe traveling to Earth in the 23rd century and making a futile attempt to contact any existing whales - the probe's origin and, in particular, its creators are generally a mystery in the film, but evidently have some connection with humpback whales as a sentient species.
When the main characters travel back in time, a short and mysterious film sequence occurs, representing their journey in various cryptic ways - representations of the crewmembers' heads appearing in an eerie cloud of smoke, dialogue from later in the film, a reprentation of a human figure falling from space down to Earth as the crew arrive in 1986. Much of this is reasonably understandable, but one piece remains more of a mystery: through much of the sequence, the camera is traveling towards a mysterious figure, shown here:
This is the obvious focal point of much of the sequence, but it is never explained in the film whether or not this figure represents a specific object or a more general concept. However, it does appear (for lack of a better term) whale-ish without directly representing a humpback whale. A question that naturally follows is whether it represents something to do with the species that originally created the space probe, even potentially relating to their own appearance.
Has it been confirmed exactly what this figure is supposed to represent? Ideally in something related to film canon (e.g., descriptive shooting scripts, written novelization or comic adaptaion), but barring that, in any other relevant material (e.g., discussion of special effects design).
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From the script; We are inside Kirk's MIND as we see a series of hypnotic dream images floating up from Kirk's subconscious; undulating figures which float toward us and pass...Liquid faces... amorphous figures... images of Kirk's shipmates in semi-transparent ghostly shapes -- aging and regressing. Kirk's image of himself running toward himself... underwater looking up at a sunlight-dappled surface... gently waving strands of reeds at an abstract shoreline... disembodied voices, sounds and music add to the hypnotic effect. And then...
– Valorum
8 mins ago
No help in the comic novelisation; i.stack.imgur.com/XcAFZ.jpg
– Valorum
3 mins ago
No help in the official novelisation; Glimpses of his past returned to him at random. He saw the Enterprise exploding out of space and burning in the atmosphere of Genesis. He saw David Marcus lying dead among the ruins of his dreams. He saw Spock as a youth-on Genesis, Spock had aged. But Jim's memory crept backward and the aging reversed. The Vulcan's living body grew younger. As the images flowed faster and faster, Jim watched all his friends become younger and younger. Spock had changed least, in the time that Jim had known him, for the life of a Vulcan spanned more time than any human's
– Valorum
2 mins ago
McCoy lost the lines that years in space had drawn in his face, till he looked as he had when James T. Kirk, lieutenant's stripes fresh on his sleeves, first met him. Jim remembered Mr. Scott, who had been doubtful at first of a brash young captain's ability to command the finest ship in Starfleet. He remembered Carol Marcus, as she had been when he returned her to earth, as she had been when they parted so many years before, as she was when they first met., etc
– Valorum
2 mins ago
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The plot of the film Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home revolves around the main characters traveling back in time from the 23rd century to 1986 in order to obtain and bring back a pair of humpback whales, which have become extinct at some point between the two points in time. The motivation is driven by a space probe traveling to Earth in the 23rd century and making a futile attempt to contact any existing whales - the probe's origin and, in particular, its creators are generally a mystery in the film, but evidently have some connection with humpback whales as a sentient species.
When the main characters travel back in time, a short and mysterious film sequence occurs, representing their journey in various cryptic ways - representations of the crewmembers' heads appearing in an eerie cloud of smoke, dialogue from later in the film, a reprentation of a human figure falling from space down to Earth as the crew arrive in 1986. Much of this is reasonably understandable, but one piece remains more of a mystery: through much of the sequence, the camera is traveling towards a mysterious figure, shown here:
This is the obvious focal point of much of the sequence, but it is never explained in the film whether or not this figure represents a specific object or a more general concept. However, it does appear (for lack of a better term) whale-ish without directly representing a humpback whale. A question that naturally follows is whether it represents something to do with the species that originally created the space probe, even potentially relating to their own appearance.
Has it been confirmed exactly what this figure is supposed to represent? Ideally in something related to film canon (e.g., descriptive shooting scripts, written novelization or comic adaptaion), but barring that, in any other relevant material (e.g., discussion of special effects design).
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The plot of the film Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home revolves around the main characters traveling back in time from the 23rd century to 1986 in order to obtain and bring back a pair of humpback whales, which have become extinct at some point between the two points in time. The motivation is driven by a space probe traveling to Earth in the 23rd century and making a futile attempt to contact any existing whales - the probe's origin and, in particular, its creators are generally a mystery in the film, but evidently have some connection with humpback whales as a sentient species.
When the main characters travel back in time, a short and mysterious film sequence occurs, representing their journey in various cryptic ways - representations of the crewmembers' heads appearing in an eerie cloud of smoke, dialogue from later in the film, a reprentation of a human figure falling from space down to Earth as the crew arrive in 1986. Much of this is reasonably understandable, but one piece remains more of a mystery: through much of the sequence, the camera is traveling towards a mysterious figure, shown here:
This is the obvious focal point of much of the sequence, but it is never explained in the film whether or not this figure represents a specific object or a more general concept. However, it does appear (for lack of a better term) whale-ish without directly representing a humpback whale. A question that naturally follows is whether it represents something to do with the species that originally created the space probe, even potentially relating to their own appearance.
Has it been confirmed exactly what this figure is supposed to represent? Ideally in something related to film canon (e.g., descriptive shooting scripts, written novelization or comic adaptaion), but barring that, in any other relevant material (e.g., discussion of special effects design).
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From the script; We are inside Kirk's MIND as we see a series of hypnotic dream images floating up from Kirk's subconscious; undulating figures which float toward us and pass...Liquid faces... amorphous figures... images of Kirk's shipmates in semi-transparent ghostly shapes -- aging and regressing. Kirk's image of himself running toward himself... underwater looking up at a sunlight-dappled surface... gently waving strands of reeds at an abstract shoreline... disembodied voices, sounds and music add to the hypnotic effect. And then...
– Valorum
8 mins ago
No help in the comic novelisation; i.stack.imgur.com/XcAFZ.jpg
– Valorum
3 mins ago
No help in the official novelisation; Glimpses of his past returned to him at random. He saw the Enterprise exploding out of space and burning in the atmosphere of Genesis. He saw David Marcus lying dead among the ruins of his dreams. He saw Spock as a youth-on Genesis, Spock had aged. But Jim's memory crept backward and the aging reversed. The Vulcan's living body grew younger. As the images flowed faster and faster, Jim watched all his friends become younger and younger. Spock had changed least, in the time that Jim had known him, for the life of a Vulcan spanned more time than any human's
– Valorum
2 mins ago
McCoy lost the lines that years in space had drawn in his face, till he looked as he had when James T. Kirk, lieutenant's stripes fresh on his sleeves, first met him. Jim remembered Mr. Scott, who had been doubtful at first of a brash young captain's ability to command the finest ship in Starfleet. He remembered Carol Marcus, as she had been when he returned her to earth, as she had been when they parted so many years before, as she was when they first met., etc
– Valorum
2 mins ago
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From the script; We are inside Kirk's MIND as we see a series of hypnotic dream images floating up from Kirk's subconscious; undulating figures which float toward us and pass...Liquid faces... amorphous figures... images of Kirk's shipmates in semi-transparent ghostly shapes -- aging and regressing. Kirk's image of himself running toward himself... underwater looking up at a sunlight-dappled surface... gently waving strands of reeds at an abstract shoreline... disembodied voices, sounds and music add to the hypnotic effect. And then...
– Valorum
8 mins ago
No help in the comic novelisation; i.stack.imgur.com/XcAFZ.jpg
– Valorum
3 mins ago
No help in the official novelisation; Glimpses of his past returned to him at random. He saw the Enterprise exploding out of space and burning in the atmosphere of Genesis. He saw David Marcus lying dead among the ruins of his dreams. He saw Spock as a youth-on Genesis, Spock had aged. But Jim's memory crept backward and the aging reversed. The Vulcan's living body grew younger. As the images flowed faster and faster, Jim watched all his friends become younger and younger. Spock had changed least, in the time that Jim had known him, for the life of a Vulcan spanned more time than any human's
– Valorum
2 mins ago
McCoy lost the lines that years in space had drawn in his face, till he looked as he had when James T. Kirk, lieutenant's stripes fresh on his sleeves, first met him. Jim remembered Mr. Scott, who had been doubtful at first of a brash young captain's ability to command the finest ship in Starfleet. He remembered Carol Marcus, as she had been when he returned her to earth, as she had been when they parted so many years before, as she was when they first met., etc
– Valorum
2 mins ago
From the script; We are inside Kirk's MIND as we see a series of hypnotic dream images floating up from Kirk's subconscious; undulating figures which float toward us and pass...Liquid faces... amorphous figures... images of Kirk's shipmates in semi-transparent ghostly shapes -- aging and regressing. Kirk's image of himself running toward himself... underwater looking up at a sunlight-dappled surface... gently waving strands of reeds at an abstract shoreline... disembodied voices, sounds and music add to the hypnotic effect. And then...
– Valorum
8 mins ago
From the script; We are inside Kirk's MIND as we see a series of hypnotic dream images floating up from Kirk's subconscious; undulating figures which float toward us and pass...Liquid faces... amorphous figures... images of Kirk's shipmates in semi-transparent ghostly shapes -- aging and regressing. Kirk's image of himself running toward himself... underwater looking up at a sunlight-dappled surface... gently waving strands of reeds at an abstract shoreline... disembodied voices, sounds and music add to the hypnotic effect. And then...
– Valorum
8 mins ago
No help in the comic novelisation; i.stack.imgur.com/XcAFZ.jpg
– Valorum
3 mins ago
No help in the comic novelisation; i.stack.imgur.com/XcAFZ.jpg
– Valorum
3 mins ago
No help in the official novelisation; Glimpses of his past returned to him at random. He saw the Enterprise exploding out of space and burning in the atmosphere of Genesis. He saw David Marcus lying dead among the ruins of his dreams. He saw Spock as a youth-on Genesis, Spock had aged. But Jim's memory crept backward and the aging reversed. The Vulcan's living body grew younger. As the images flowed faster and faster, Jim watched all his friends become younger and younger. Spock had changed least, in the time that Jim had known him, for the life of a Vulcan spanned more time than any human's
– Valorum
2 mins ago
No help in the official novelisation; Glimpses of his past returned to him at random. He saw the Enterprise exploding out of space and burning in the atmosphere of Genesis. He saw David Marcus lying dead among the ruins of his dreams. He saw Spock as a youth-on Genesis, Spock had aged. But Jim's memory crept backward and the aging reversed. The Vulcan's living body grew younger. As the images flowed faster and faster, Jim watched all his friends become younger and younger. Spock had changed least, in the time that Jim had known him, for the life of a Vulcan spanned more time than any human's
– Valorum
2 mins ago
McCoy lost the lines that years in space had drawn in his face, till he looked as he had when James T. Kirk, lieutenant's stripes fresh on his sleeves, first met him. Jim remembered Mr. Scott, who had been doubtful at first of a brash young captain's ability to command the finest ship in Starfleet. He remembered Carol Marcus, as she had been when he returned her to earth, as she had been when they parted so many years before, as she was when they first met., etc
– Valorum
2 mins ago
McCoy lost the lines that years in space had drawn in his face, till he looked as he had when James T. Kirk, lieutenant's stripes fresh on his sleeves, first met him. Jim remembered Mr. Scott, who had been doubtful at first of a brash young captain's ability to command the finest ship in Starfleet. He remembered Carol Marcus, as she had been when he returned her to earth, as she had been when they parted so many years before, as she was when they first met., etc
– Valorum
2 mins ago
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From the script; We are inside Kirk's MIND as we see a series of hypnotic dream images floating up from Kirk's subconscious; undulating figures which float toward us and pass...Liquid faces... amorphous figures... images of Kirk's shipmates in semi-transparent ghostly shapes -- aging and regressing. Kirk's image of himself running toward himself... underwater looking up at a sunlight-dappled surface... gently waving strands of reeds at an abstract shoreline... disembodied voices, sounds and music add to the hypnotic effect. And then...
– Valorum
8 mins ago
No help in the comic novelisation; i.stack.imgur.com/XcAFZ.jpg
– Valorum
3 mins ago
No help in the official novelisation; Glimpses of his past returned to him at random. He saw the Enterprise exploding out of space and burning in the atmosphere of Genesis. He saw David Marcus lying dead among the ruins of his dreams. He saw Spock as a youth-on Genesis, Spock had aged. But Jim's memory crept backward and the aging reversed. The Vulcan's living body grew younger. As the images flowed faster and faster, Jim watched all his friends become younger and younger. Spock had changed least, in the time that Jim had known him, for the life of a Vulcan spanned more time than any human's
– Valorum
2 mins ago
McCoy lost the lines that years in space had drawn in his face, till he looked as he had when James T. Kirk, lieutenant's stripes fresh on his sleeves, first met him. Jim remembered Mr. Scott, who had been doubtful at first of a brash young captain's ability to command the finest ship in Starfleet. He remembered Carol Marcus, as she had been when he returned her to earth, as she had been when they parted so many years before, as she was when they first met., etc
– Valorum
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