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Starting from this code

documentclass[12pt]{book}

usepackage{mathtools,amssymb} 

usepackage{newtxtext}

usepackage[lite]{mtpro2}

begin{document}

$(Lboldsymbol{mathcal A}')^intercal =boldsymbol{mathcal A}'{}^intercal  L^intercal $

end{document}

with this output

I'd like to move the intercal command a little higher and to the left in the direction indicated by the arrow. But does LaTeX have a direct command to move the symbol up or down or do I need to use specific macros? What could be the ways to have an adequate and beautiful way to write this formula?

math-mode symbols mtpro

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edited 4 hours ago

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  I haven't the fonts but intercal is essentially a lowered sans serif T so ^{mathsf{T}} might look better
  
  – David Carlisle
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @DavidCarlisle Before I have used always top. The last command is very thin and that's because I bet on intercal.
  
  – Sebastiano
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Is ^intercal supposed to denote the transpose operator? Just curious.
  
  – Mico
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  @Mico I wrote an essay on that :-) tex.stackexchange.com/questions/435328/…
  
  – David Carlisle
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @DavidCarlisle +1 for the history :-)
  
  – Sebastiano
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

 | 
show 1 more comment

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Starting from this code

documentclass[12pt]{book}

usepackage{mathtools,amssymb} 

usepackage{newtxtext}

usepackage[lite]{mtpro2}

begin{document}

$(Lboldsymbol{mathcal A}')^intercal =boldsymbol{mathcal A}'{}^intercal  L^intercal $

end{document}

with this output

I'd like to move the intercal command a little higher and to the left in the direction indicated by the arrow. But does LaTeX have a direct command to move the symbol up or down or do I need to use specific macros? What could be the ways to have an adequate and beautiful way to write this formula?

math-mode symbols mtpro

share|improve this question

edited 4 hours ago

Mico

285k31388778

asked 4 hours ago

SebastianoSebastiano

11.1k42165

• 
  
  
  

  
  2
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  I haven't the fonts but intercal is essentially a lowered sans serif T so ^{mathsf{T}} might look better
  
  – David Carlisle
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @DavidCarlisle Before I have used always top. The last command is very thin and that's because I bet on intercal.
  
  – Sebastiano
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Is ^intercal supposed to denote the transpose operator? Just curious.
  
  – Mico
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @Mico I wrote an essay on that :-) tex.stackexchange.com/questions/435328/…
  
  – David Carlisle
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @DavidCarlisle +1 for the history :-)
  
  – Sebastiano
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

 | 
show 1 more comment

Starting from this code

documentclass[12pt]{book}

usepackage{mathtools,amssymb} 

usepackage{newtxtext}

usepackage[lite]{mtpro2}

begin{document}

$(Lboldsymbol{mathcal A}')^intercal =boldsymbol{mathcal A}'{}^intercal  L^intercal $

end{document}

with this output

I'd like to move the intercal command a little higher and to the left in the direction indicated by the arrow. But does LaTeX have a direct command to move the symbol up or down or do I need to use specific macros? What could be the ways to have an adequate and beautiful way to write this formula?

math-mode symbols mtpro

share|improve this question

edited 4 hours ago

Mico

285k31388778

asked 4 hours ago

SebastianoSebastiano

11.1k42165

documentclass[12pt]{book}

usepackage{mathtools,amssymb} 

usepackage{newtxtext}

usepackage[lite]{mtpro2}

begin{document}

$(Lboldsymbol{mathcal A}')^intercal =boldsymbol{mathcal A}'{}^intercal  L^intercal $

end{document}

share|improve this question

edited 4 hours ago

Mico

285k31388778

asked 4 hours ago

SebastianoSebastiano

11.1k42165

share|improve this question

edited 4 hours ago

Mico

285k31388778

asked 4 hours ago

SebastianoSebastiano

11.1k42165

edited 4 hours ago

Mico

285k31388778

edited 4 hours ago

Mico

285k31388778

asked 4 hours ago

SebastianoSebastiano

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asked 4 hours ago

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Combining David's suggestion with Sebastiano's requirement...

I use mathsf{T} as the core of the revised intercal (you can rename it something else if you don't want to overwrite it), but then to make it smaller, I use it in cramped, superscripted form (revision 1). Alternately, I just set it in scriptscriptstyle, which lowers its elevation a bit, while still keeping it higher than the original intercal (revision 2).

Original, then two revisions.

documentclass[12pt]{book}

usepackage{mathtools,amssymb} 

usepackage{newtxtext}

usepackage{newtxmath}%[lite]{mtpro2}

begin{document}

$(Lboldsymbol{mathcal A}')^intercal =boldsymbol{mathcal A}'{}^intercal  L^intercal $



renewcommandintercal{{cramped{{}^mathsf{T}}}}

$(Lboldsymbol{mathcal A}')^intercal =boldsymbol{mathcal A}'{}^intercal  L^intercal $



renewcommandintercal{mathsf{scriptscriptstyle T}}

$(Lboldsymbol{mathcal A}')^intercal =boldsymbol{mathcal A}'{}^intercal  L^intercal $

end{document}

share|improve this answer

edited 4 hours ago

answered 4 hours ago

Steven B. SegletesSteven B. Segletes

161k9205415

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Great Steven. But what is cramped?
  
  – Sebastiano
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @Sebastiano cramped is a style that takes less vertical space, by lowering superscripts. It is automatically used, for example, for arguments of sqrt (requires amsmath).
  
  – Steven B. Segletes
  4 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @Sebastiano I see. I do not need cramped in the 2nd revision. I have removed it.
  
  – Steven B. Segletes
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Hi, please, the comment that I have written to Mico. :-)
  
  – Sebastiano
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

1

Here's another variation on David's idea to use mathsf{T} instead of either intercal or top. The macro tp (short for "transpose", naturally) employs scriptscriptstyle math mode. The tp macro takes an optional argument: a scalar number, to indicate how many mu the "T" should be shifted to the left. The ability to fine-tune the horizontal position can come in handy if you're dealing with letters, such as L, which have no component in the upper-right quadrant. (The default amount of left-shift is 3, as in -3mu. Aside: mkern-3mu is the same as !.)

documentclass[12pt]{book}

usepackage{mathtools,amssymb,newtxtext}

usepackage[lite]{mtpro2}

newcommandbmcA{boldsymbol{mathcal A}'{}}

newcommandtp[1][3]{^{^{mkern-#1mumathsf{T}}}}

begin{document}

$intercal$ $top$ $mathsf{T}$



medskip

begin{tabular}{@{}ll}

$(LbmcA)^intercal = bmcA{}^intercal L^intercal$ & verb+intercal+ \

$(LbmcA)^top = bmcA^top L^top$                  & verb+top+      \

$(LbmcA)tp = bmcAtp Ltp = bmcA{}tp Ltp[6]$   & verb+tp+

end{tabular}

end{document}

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answered 4 hours ago

MicoMico

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  The answers are all very good. :-( If I don't give the green check it's because I'm good with the two answers at the same time.
  
  – Sebastiano
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

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Combining David's suggestion with Sebastiano's requirement...

I use mathsf{T} as the core of the revised intercal (you can rename it something else if you don't want to overwrite it), but then to make it smaller, I use it in cramped, superscripted form (revision 1). Alternately, I just set it in scriptscriptstyle, which lowers its elevation a bit, while still keeping it higher than the original intercal (revision 2).

Original, then two revisions.

documentclass[12pt]{book}

usepackage{mathtools,amssymb} 

usepackage{newtxtext}

usepackage{newtxmath}%[lite]{mtpro2}

begin{document}

$(Lboldsymbol{mathcal A}')^intercal =boldsymbol{mathcal A}'{}^intercal  L^intercal $



renewcommandintercal{{cramped{{}^mathsf{T}}}}

$(Lboldsymbol{mathcal A}')^intercal =boldsymbol{mathcal A}'{}^intercal  L^intercal $



renewcommandintercal{mathsf{scriptscriptstyle T}}

$(Lboldsymbol{mathcal A}')^intercal =boldsymbol{mathcal A}'{}^intercal  L^intercal $

end{document}

share|improve this answer

edited 4 hours ago

answered 4 hours ago

Steven B. SegletesSteven B. Segletes

161k9205415

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Great Steven. But what is cramped?
  
  – Sebastiano
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @Sebastiano cramped is a style that takes less vertical space, by lowering superscripts. It is automatically used, for example, for arguments of sqrt (requires amsmath).
  
  – Steven B. Segletes
  4 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @Sebastiano I see. I do not need cramped in the 2nd revision. I have removed it.
  
  – Steven B. Segletes
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Hi, please, the comment that I have written to Mico. :-)
  
  – Sebastiano
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

4

Combining David's suggestion with Sebastiano's requirement...

I use mathsf{T} as the core of the revised intercal (you can rename it something else if you don't want to overwrite it), but then to make it smaller, I use it in cramped, superscripted form (revision 1). Alternately, I just set it in scriptscriptstyle, which lowers its elevation a bit, while still keeping it higher than the original intercal (revision 2).

Original, then two revisions.

documentclass[12pt]{book}

usepackage{mathtools,amssymb} 

usepackage{newtxtext}

usepackage{newtxmath}%[lite]{mtpro2}

begin{document}

$(Lboldsymbol{mathcal A}')^intercal =boldsymbol{mathcal A}'{}^intercal  L^intercal $



renewcommandintercal{{cramped{{}^mathsf{T}}}}

$(Lboldsymbol{mathcal A}')^intercal =boldsymbol{mathcal A}'{}^intercal  L^intercal $



renewcommandintercal{mathsf{scriptscriptstyle T}}

$(Lboldsymbol{mathcal A}')^intercal =boldsymbol{mathcal A}'{}^intercal  L^intercal $

end{document}

share|improve this answer

edited 4 hours ago

answered 4 hours ago

Steven B. SegletesSteven B. Segletes

161k9205415

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Great Steven. But what is cramped?
  
  – Sebastiano
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @Sebastiano cramped is a style that takes less vertical space, by lowering superscripts. It is automatically used, for example, for arguments of sqrt (requires amsmath).
  
  – Steven B. Segletes
  4 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @Sebastiano I see. I do not need cramped in the 2nd revision. I have removed it.
  
  – Steven B. Segletes
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Hi, please, the comment that I have written to Mico. :-)
  
  – Sebastiano
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

Combining David's suggestion with Sebastiano's requirement...

I use mathsf{T} as the core of the revised intercal (you can rename it something else if you don't want to overwrite it), but then to make it smaller, I use it in cramped, superscripted form (revision 1). Alternately, I just set it in scriptscriptstyle, which lowers its elevation a bit, while still keeping it higher than the original intercal (revision 2).

Original, then two revisions.

documentclass[12pt]{book}

usepackage{mathtools,amssymb} 

usepackage{newtxtext}

usepackage{newtxmath}%[lite]{mtpro2}

begin{document}

$(Lboldsymbol{mathcal A}')^intercal =boldsymbol{mathcal A}'{}^intercal  L^intercal $



renewcommandintercal{{cramped{{}^mathsf{T}}}}

$(Lboldsymbol{mathcal A}')^intercal =boldsymbol{mathcal A}'{}^intercal  L^intercal $



renewcommandintercal{mathsf{scriptscriptstyle T}}

$(Lboldsymbol{mathcal A}')^intercal =boldsymbol{mathcal A}'{}^intercal  L^intercal $

end{document}

share|improve this answer

edited 4 hours ago

answered 4 hours ago

Steven B. SegletesSteven B. Segletes

161k9205415

documentclass[12pt]{book}

usepackage{mathtools,amssymb} 

usepackage{newtxtext}

usepackage{newtxmath}%[lite]{mtpro2}

begin{document}

$(Lboldsymbol{mathcal A}')^intercal =boldsymbol{mathcal A}'{}^intercal  L^intercal $



renewcommandintercal{{cramped{{}^mathsf{T}}}}

$(Lboldsymbol{mathcal A}')^intercal =boldsymbol{mathcal A}'{}^intercal  L^intercal $



renewcommandintercal{mathsf{scriptscriptstyle T}}

$(Lboldsymbol{mathcal A}')^intercal =boldsymbol{mathcal A}'{}^intercal  L^intercal $

end{document}

share|improve this answer

edited 4 hours ago

answered 4 hours ago

Steven B. SegletesSteven B. Segletes

161k9205415

answered 4 hours ago

Steven B. SegletesSteven B. Segletes

161k9205415

answered 4 hours ago

Steven B. SegletesSteven B. Segletes

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1

Here's another variation on David's idea to use mathsf{T} instead of either intercal or top. The macro tp (short for "transpose", naturally) employs scriptscriptstyle math mode. The tp macro takes an optional argument: a scalar number, to indicate how many mu the "T" should be shifted to the left. The ability to fine-tune the horizontal position can come in handy if you're dealing with letters, such as L, which have no component in the upper-right quadrant. (The default amount of left-shift is 3, as in -3mu. Aside: mkern-3mu is the same as !.)

documentclass[12pt]{book}

usepackage{mathtools,amssymb,newtxtext}

usepackage[lite]{mtpro2}

newcommandbmcA{boldsymbol{mathcal A}'{}}

newcommandtp[1][3]{^{^{mkern-#1mumathsf{T}}}}

begin{document}

$intercal$ $top$ $mathsf{T}$



medskip

begin{tabular}{@{}ll}

$(LbmcA)^intercal = bmcA{}^intercal L^intercal$ & verb+intercal+ \

$(LbmcA)^top = bmcA^top L^top$                  & verb+top+      \

$(LbmcA)tp = bmcAtp Ltp = bmcA{}tp Ltp[6]$   & verb+tp+

end{tabular}

end{document}

share|improve this answer

answered 4 hours ago

MicoMico

285k31388778

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  The answers are all very good. :-( If I don't give the green check it's because I'm good with the two answers at the same time.
  
  – Sebastiano
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

1

Here's another variation on David's idea to use mathsf{T} instead of either intercal or top. The macro tp (short for "transpose", naturally) employs scriptscriptstyle math mode. The tp macro takes an optional argument: a scalar number, to indicate how many mu the "T" should be shifted to the left. The ability to fine-tune the horizontal position can come in handy if you're dealing with letters, such as L, which have no component in the upper-right quadrant. (The default amount of left-shift is 3, as in -3mu. Aside: mkern-3mu is the same as !.)

documentclass[12pt]{book}

usepackage{mathtools,amssymb,newtxtext}

usepackage[lite]{mtpro2}

newcommandbmcA{boldsymbol{mathcal A}'{}}

newcommandtp[1][3]{^{^{mkern-#1mumathsf{T}}}}

begin{document}

$intercal$ $top$ $mathsf{T}$



medskip

begin{tabular}{@{}ll}

$(LbmcA)^intercal = bmcA{}^intercal L^intercal$ & verb+intercal+ \

$(LbmcA)^top = bmcA^top L^top$                  & verb+top+      \

$(LbmcA)tp = bmcAtp Ltp = bmcA{}tp Ltp[6]$   & verb+tp+

end{tabular}

end{document}

share|improve this answer

answered 4 hours ago

MicoMico

285k31388778

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  The answers are all very good. :-( If I don't give the green check it's because I'm good with the two answers at the same time.
  
  – Sebastiano
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

Here's another variation on David's idea to use mathsf{T} instead of either intercal or top. The macro tp (short for "transpose", naturally) employs scriptscriptstyle math mode. The tp macro takes an optional argument: a scalar number, to indicate how many mu the "T" should be shifted to the left. The ability to fine-tune the horizontal position can come in handy if you're dealing with letters, such as L, which have no component in the upper-right quadrant. (The default amount of left-shift is 3, as in -3mu. Aside: mkern-3mu is the same as !.)

documentclass[12pt]{book}

usepackage{mathtools,amssymb,newtxtext}

usepackage[lite]{mtpro2}

newcommandbmcA{boldsymbol{mathcal A}'{}}

newcommandtp[1][3]{^{^{mkern-#1mumathsf{T}}}}

begin{document}

$intercal$ $top$ $mathsf{T}$



medskip

begin{tabular}{@{}ll}

$(LbmcA)^intercal = bmcA{}^intercal L^intercal$ & verb+intercal+ \

$(LbmcA)^top = bmcA^top L^top$                  & verb+top+      \

$(LbmcA)tp = bmcAtp Ltp = bmcA{}tp Ltp[6]$   & verb+tp+

end{tabular}

end{document}

share|improve this answer

answered 4 hours ago

MicoMico

285k31388778

documentclass[12pt]{book}

usepackage{mathtools,amssymb,newtxtext}

usepackage[lite]{mtpro2}

newcommandbmcA{boldsymbol{mathcal A}'{}}

newcommandtp[1][3]{^{^{mkern-#1mumathsf{T}}}}

begin{document}

$intercal$ $top$ $mathsf{T}$



medskip

begin{tabular}{@{}ll}

$(LbmcA)^intercal = bmcA{}^intercal L^intercal$ & verb+intercal+ \

$(LbmcA)^top = bmcA^top L^top$                  & verb+top+      \

$(LbmcA)tp = bmcAtp Ltp = bmcA{}tp Ltp[6]$   & verb+tp+

end{tabular}

end{document}

share|improve this answer

answered 4 hours ago

MicoMico

285k31388778

answered 4 hours ago

MicoMico

285k31388778

answered 4 hours ago

MicoMico

285k31388778