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I am playing a lvl-4 halfling druid with a background as a woodworker craftsman. I would like to be able to carve small wooden creatures, and then animate them. The 5th-level spell Animate Objects seems to be a bit of overkill for this application; is there a more appropriate alternative?

This question is being driven more by a character-building motive of trying to connect the character's previous life as a wood carver to his current life as a spell casting adventurer. There is no specific (e.g., combat-related) goal.

I just thought it would be cool to have some wooden creatures to play with that can:

• be sent on errands


• fake out monsters/guards


• engage in combat distraction

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I am playing a lvl-4 halfling druid with a background as a woodworker craftsman. I would like to be able to carve small wooden creatures, and then animate them. The 5th-level spell Animate Objects seems to be a bit of overkill for this application; is there a more appropriate alternative?

This question is being driven more by a character-building motive of trying to connect the character's previous life as a wood carver to his current life as a spell casting adventurer. There is no specific (e.g., combat-related) goal.

I just thought it would be cool to have some wooden creatures to play with that can:

• be sent on errands


• fake out monsters/guards


• engage in combat distraction

dnd-5e spells dnd-adventurers-league

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I am playing a lvl-4 halfling druid with a background as a woodworker craftsman. I would like to be able to carve small wooden creatures, and then animate them. The 5th-level spell Animate Objects seems to be a bit of overkill for this application; is there a more appropriate alternative?

This question is being driven more by a character-building motive of trying to connect the character's previous life as a wood carver to his current life as a spell casting adventurer. There is no specific (e.g., combat-related) goal.

I just thought it would be cool to have some wooden creatures to play with that can:

• be sent on errands


• fake out monsters/guards


• engage in combat distraction

dnd-5e spells dnd-adventurers-league

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Tiny Servant

In Xanathar's Guide to Everything, pp. 168-169, there is a spell called tiny servant that seems to be what you're looking for. It's a 3rd level spell, so you would have the necessarily spell slots next level (when you reach 5th level), but it's only on the wizard's spell list, not the druid's.

If there's a way that you or your DM can enable your druid to have access to this spell, it would enable you to animate one object rather than many objects like animate objects does.

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Consider a slight reflavoring of Conjure Animals.

The 3rd level Druid spell Conjure Animals states that:

You summon fey spirits that take the form of beasts and appear in
unoccupied spaces that you can see within range.

It would be nearly equivalent, mechanically, if your character first tossed out his wooden animal statues to the desired locations, and they then grew and animated into the appropriate animals (of a CR appropriate for the spell, of course).

According to the spell,

Each beast is also considered fey, and it disappears when it drops to 0 hit points or when the spell ends.

Your statues would thus be destroyed after the spell ended or the animal was reduced to 0 HP.

You would need to discuss with your DM whether or not this will be allowed, but as this is a change to the spell's flavor rather than mechanics, for the most part, they may be willing to accommodate you.

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There is no druid spell that is able to do that below 5th level

Unfortunately what you want to do is simply not a part of any druid spell lower than 5th level. In fact, animate objects is also not on the druid spell list which means you aren't able to even cast that.

If there was something specific you wanted the tiny creatures to do you could possibly reflavor other spells to have them enacting that effect, but otherwise you don't really have any options as a druid.

Tiny servant if you can somehow get access to wizard spells

If you were a wizard or could get access to the 3rd-level wizard spell tiny servant you might be able to get some semblance of what you want, but there is no obvious or easy way to do that (and you can't even cast 3rd level spells yet).

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Tiny Servant

In Xanathar's Guide to Everything, pp. 168-169, there is a spell called tiny servant that seems to be what you're looking for. It's a 3rd level spell, so you would have the necessarily spell slots next level (when you reach 5th level), but it's only on the wizard's spell list, not the druid's.

If there's a way that you or your DM can enable your druid to have access to this spell, it would enable you to animate one object rather than many objects like animate objects does.

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Tiny Servant

In Xanathar's Guide to Everything, pp. 168-169, there is a spell called tiny servant that seems to be what you're looking for. It's a 3rd level spell, so you would have the necessarily spell slots next level (when you reach 5th level), but it's only on the wizard's spell list, not the druid's.

If there's a way that you or your DM can enable your druid to have access to this spell, it would enable you to animate one object rather than many objects like animate objects does.

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Tiny Servant

In Xanathar's Guide to Everything, pp. 168-169, there is a spell called tiny servant that seems to be what you're looking for. It's a 3rd level spell, so you would have the necessarily spell slots next level (when you reach 5th level), but it's only on the wizard's spell list, not the druid's.

If there's a way that you or your DM can enable your druid to have access to this spell, it would enable you to animate one object rather than many objects like animate objects does.

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Consider a slight reflavoring of Conjure Animals.

The 3rd level Druid spell Conjure Animals states that:

You summon fey spirits that take the form of beasts and appear in
unoccupied spaces that you can see within range.

It would be nearly equivalent, mechanically, if your character first tossed out his wooden animal statues to the desired locations, and they then grew and animated into the appropriate animals (of a CR appropriate for the spell, of course).

According to the spell,

Each beast is also considered fey, and it disappears when it drops to 0 hit points or when the spell ends.

Your statues would thus be destroyed after the spell ended or the animal was reduced to 0 HP.

You would need to discuss with your DM whether or not this will be allowed, but as this is a change to the spell's flavor rather than mechanics, for the most part, they may be willing to accommodate you.

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  I like this idea; might be worth making each beast also a construct-type creature rather than also a fey-type creature to better fit the "animated objects" theme, but that depends on how far their DM is willing to go for the sake of reflavouring, since anti-fey spells and effects would no longer work, etc...
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Consider a slight reflavoring of Conjure Animals.

The 3rd level Druid spell Conjure Animals states that:

You summon fey spirits that take the form of beasts and appear in
unoccupied spaces that you can see within range.

It would be nearly equivalent, mechanically, if your character first tossed out his wooden animal statues to the desired locations, and they then grew and animated into the appropriate animals (of a CR appropriate for the spell, of course).

According to the spell,

Each beast is also considered fey, and it disappears when it drops to 0 hit points or when the spell ends.

Your statues would thus be destroyed after the spell ended or the animal was reduced to 0 HP.

You would need to discuss with your DM whether or not this will be allowed, but as this is a change to the spell's flavor rather than mechanics, for the most part, they may be willing to accommodate you.

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  I like this idea; might be worth making each beast also a construct-type creature rather than also a fey-type creature to better fit the "animated objects" theme, but that depends on how far their DM is willing to go for the sake of reflavouring, since anti-fey spells and effects would no longer work, etc...
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Consider a slight reflavoring of Conjure Animals.

The 3rd level Druid spell Conjure Animals states that:

You summon fey spirits that take the form of beasts and appear in
unoccupied spaces that you can see within range.

It would be nearly equivalent, mechanically, if your character first tossed out his wooden animal statues to the desired locations, and they then grew and animated into the appropriate animals (of a CR appropriate for the spell, of course).

According to the spell,

Each beast is also considered fey, and it disappears when it drops to 0 hit points or when the spell ends.

Your statues would thus be destroyed after the spell ended or the animal was reduced to 0 HP.

You would need to discuss with your DM whether or not this will be allowed, but as this is a change to the spell's flavor rather than mechanics, for the most part, they may be willing to accommodate you.

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There is no druid spell that is able to do that below 5th level

Unfortunately what you want to do is simply not a part of any druid spell lower than 5th level. In fact, animate objects is also not on the druid spell list which means you aren't able to even cast that.

If there was something specific you wanted the tiny creatures to do you could possibly reflavor other spells to have them enacting that effect, but otherwise you don't really have any options as a druid.

Tiny servant if you can somehow get access to wizard spells

If you were a wizard or could get access to the 3rd-level wizard spell tiny servant you might be able to get some semblance of what you want, but there is no obvious or easy way to do that (and you can't even cast 3rd level spells yet).

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There is no druid spell that is able to do that below 5th level

Unfortunately what you want to do is simply not a part of any druid spell lower than 5th level. In fact, animate objects is also not on the druid spell list which means you aren't able to even cast that.

If there was something specific you wanted the tiny creatures to do you could possibly reflavor other spells to have them enacting that effect, but otherwise you don't really have any options as a druid.

Tiny servant if you can somehow get access to wizard spells

If you were a wizard or could get access to the 3rd-level wizard spell tiny servant you might be able to get some semblance of what you want, but there is no obvious or easy way to do that (and you can't even cast 3rd level spells yet).

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There is no druid spell that is able to do that below 5th level

Unfortunately what you want to do is simply not a part of any druid spell lower than 5th level. In fact, animate objects is also not on the druid spell list which means you aren't able to even cast that.

If there was something specific you wanted the tiny creatures to do you could possibly reflavor other spells to have them enacting that effect, but otherwise you don't really have any options as a druid.

Tiny servant if you can somehow get access to wizard spells

If you were a wizard or could get access to the 3rd-level wizard spell tiny servant you might be able to get some semblance of what you want, but there is no obvious or easy way to do that (and you can't even cast 3rd level spells yet).

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edited 4 hours ago

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RubiksmooseRubiksmoose

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answered 5 hours ago

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