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Italian mafias are a well-known example of an ethnic-based mafia in USA but are there other examples of European mafias based in ethnicity in USA?
I'm especially interested in North European examples, e.g., a German mafia or Prussian mafia or similar.
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Italian mafias are a well-known example of an ethnic-based mafia in USA but are there other examples of European mafias based in ethnicity in USA?
I'm especially interested in North European examples, e.g., a German mafia or Prussian mafia or similar.
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I'm especially interested in North European examples, e.g., a German mafia or Prussian mafia or similar.
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Italian mafias are a well-known example of an ethnic-based mafia in USA but are there other examples of European mafias based in ethnicity in USA?
I'm especially interested in North European examples, e.g., a German mafia or Prussian mafia or similar.
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Probably the best-known non-Italian 'ethnic-based mafia' that operated in the USA was the Unione Corse.
This group were not North-European, but were part of the Corsican Mafia and maintained the so-called French Connection monopoly, controlling the import of Heroin, from French Indo-China, through France (and Canada) into the United States from the 1930s until the late 1970s.
The Irish organised crime groups that operated from the nineteenth century onwards are another well known group that might be classified as an 'ethnic-based mafia'. Sometimes collectively known as the "Irish Mob", this group actually originated in the Irish street gangs in the United States.
Those gangs were made famous (or, perhaps more accurately, infamous) by Herbert Asbury's 1928 book The Gangs of New York, which was loosely adapted into Martin Scorsese's 2002 film of the same name. As a group whose members are linked to a North-European country, this might meet your requirements.
In this case, the Irish Mob appears to have originated in the US in the nineteenth century and then expanded back into Ireland at some point in the 1960s. This growth of organised crime in Ireland was the subject of the 3-part documentary series Bad Fellas on RTÉ Television.
Although operating on a smaller scale, the so-called "Polish Mob" are another North-European 'ethnic-based mafia'.
Some well-known elements include the Saltis-McErlane Gang in Chicago, the Kielbasa Posse in Philadelphis, the Greenpoint Crew from Brooklyn, the Flats Mob in Cleveland, and the The Flathead gang in Detroit.
As for your specific question about German or Prussian mafias operating in the United states, I have to say that I haven't found any references to a significant 'German mafia' or 'Prussian mafia' operating in the United States.
I did find this post on Reddit that also seems to suggest that, while it seems likely that there were some German criminal groups active in the US, they didn't operate on the same scale as some other groups:
I've researched and written about the early years of the Mafia in the US, and looked at Jewish and Irish organised crime in New York as well, I have never come across any references to a German equivalent. This is not to say it never occurred – and in fact, given that at least 6 million German emigrated to the US during the 19th and early 20th centuries, I'd be very surprised if it never did – but certainly Germans were not as prominent as other ethnic groups in organised crime.
Finally, it is worth noting that Wikipedia maintains a list of '"Criminal enterprises, gangs and syndicates", which includes a (presumably not exhaustive) list of gangs operating in the United States.
Included in this list you will also find the Jewish-American organised-crime groups that were active in the United States in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, and which are not infrequently referred to as the ' Jewish Mafia' in the media and popular culture. Some members of these groups did have German ancestry.
The Jewish mafia might be another example worth including here.
– Brian Z
2 hours ago
@BrianZ Thanks. I was in the process of adding them as part of the latest edit.
– sempaiscuba♦
2 hours ago
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Question:
Non Italian European organized crime groups in the United States.
Ethnic Organized Crime groups which meet the criteria of your question operating in the United States are.
69th St Gang Philadelphia Jewish Gang
Cape Verdean - French, Netherlands, Portugal, and New England
The Combined (Group) - Jewish Italian Irish Organized Crime precursor to the Cosa Nostra- The Irish Mob
The Israeli Mob - Jewish
Lenox Avenue Gang - Jewish
Purple Gang - predominantly Jewish members
Russian Mafia - Russian
Solomon Crime Family - Jewish Russian
Sagansky Organization - Jewish- Philadelphia Greek Mob
Velentzas Crime Family - Greek
Oddly enough the Mafia or Cosa Nostra was an extension of the highly organized Sicilian mafia not Italian mafia.
1
The Hell's Angels likely count too, as they generally don't allow non-white (eg: European-descended) members.
– T.E.D.♦
1 hour ago
2
@T.E.D. One could probable list more than 20 biker gangs like that as well as various Arian Groups ,
– JMS
1 hour ago
3
@LangLangC The difference between Sicily and Italy is greater than the difference between Germany and Austria. Sicilians have a different language, complexion, and culture. Particularly when dealing Pre-Italian Unification or the first few generations afterwards, the two are quite different.
– Lan
40 mins ago
3
@LangLangC, The Cosa Nostra or Five Families which made up the American Mafia were ( Bonanno, Colombo, Gambino, Genovese and Lucchese.). All Sicilian. To be a "made man" or officer in the organization you had to be 100% Sicilian. Famous gangsters like Al Capone (a Neapolitan) were excluded and worked in contention with the Five families. Capone killed Frankie Yates in 1928 because Frankie a Sicilian wouldn't sell his Brooklin club to the non Sicilian. The Mafia was famous for building Las Vegas, attempting to dominate Cuba, and operating Murder Inc ( a largely jewish offshoot.).
– JMS
25 mins ago
1
Frankie Yale was Al Capone's original crime boss in NY City. Yale was said to be one of the most powerful members of the NY Mafia (Brooklyn) when he was killed by Capone in 1928. Capone murdered Yale because Yale refused to give Capone, a Neapolitan, control over the Unione Siciliana fraternal association.. It wasn't enough to be Italian in the Mafia, You had to be Sicilian.
– JMS
8 mins ago
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Probably the best-known non-Italian 'ethnic-based mafia' that operated in the USA was the Unione Corse.
This group were not North-European, but were part of the Corsican Mafia and maintained the so-called French Connection monopoly, controlling the import of Heroin, from French Indo-China, through France (and Canada) into the United States from the 1930s until the late 1970s.
The Irish organised crime groups that operated from the nineteenth century onwards are another well known group that might be classified as an 'ethnic-based mafia'. Sometimes collectively known as the "Irish Mob", this group actually originated in the Irish street gangs in the United States.
Those gangs were made famous (or, perhaps more accurately, infamous) by Herbert Asbury's 1928 book The Gangs of New York, which was loosely adapted into Martin Scorsese's 2002 film of the same name. As a group whose members are linked to a North-European country, this might meet your requirements.
In this case, the Irish Mob appears to have originated in the US in the nineteenth century and then expanded back into Ireland at some point in the 1960s. This growth of organised crime in Ireland was the subject of the 3-part documentary series Bad Fellas on RTÉ Television.
Although operating on a smaller scale, the so-called "Polish Mob" are another North-European 'ethnic-based mafia'.
Some well-known elements include the Saltis-McErlane Gang in Chicago, the Kielbasa Posse in Philadelphis, the Greenpoint Crew from Brooklyn, the Flats Mob in Cleveland, and the The Flathead gang in Detroit.
As for your specific question about German or Prussian mafias operating in the United states, I have to say that I haven't found any references to a significant 'German mafia' or 'Prussian mafia' operating in the United States.
I did find this post on Reddit that also seems to suggest that, while it seems likely that there were some German criminal groups active in the US, they didn't operate on the same scale as some other groups:
I've researched and written about the early years of the Mafia in the US, and looked at Jewish and Irish organised crime in New York as well, I have never come across any references to a German equivalent. This is not to say it never occurred – and in fact, given that at least 6 million German emigrated to the US during the 19th and early 20th centuries, I'd be very surprised if it never did – but certainly Germans were not as prominent as other ethnic groups in organised crime.
Finally, it is worth noting that Wikipedia maintains a list of '"Criminal enterprises, gangs and syndicates", which includes a (presumably not exhaustive) list of gangs operating in the United States.
Included in this list you will also find the Jewish-American organised-crime groups that were active in the United States in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, and which are not infrequently referred to as the ' Jewish Mafia' in the media and popular culture. Some members of these groups did have German ancestry.
The Jewish mafia might be another example worth including here.
– Brian Z
2 hours ago
@BrianZ Thanks. I was in the process of adding them as part of the latest edit.
– sempaiscuba♦
2 hours ago
add a comment |
Probably the best-known non-Italian 'ethnic-based mafia' that operated in the USA was the Unione Corse.
This group were not North-European, but were part of the Corsican Mafia and maintained the so-called French Connection monopoly, controlling the import of Heroin, from French Indo-China, through France (and Canada) into the United States from the 1930s until the late 1970s.
The Irish organised crime groups that operated from the nineteenth century onwards are another well known group that might be classified as an 'ethnic-based mafia'. Sometimes collectively known as the "Irish Mob", this group actually originated in the Irish street gangs in the United States.
Those gangs were made famous (or, perhaps more accurately, infamous) by Herbert Asbury's 1928 book The Gangs of New York, which was loosely adapted into Martin Scorsese's 2002 film of the same name. As a group whose members are linked to a North-European country, this might meet your requirements.
In this case, the Irish Mob appears to have originated in the US in the nineteenth century and then expanded back into Ireland at some point in the 1960s. This growth of organised crime in Ireland was the subject of the 3-part documentary series Bad Fellas on RTÉ Television.
Although operating on a smaller scale, the so-called "Polish Mob" are another North-European 'ethnic-based mafia'.
Some well-known elements include the Saltis-McErlane Gang in Chicago, the Kielbasa Posse in Philadelphis, the Greenpoint Crew from Brooklyn, the Flats Mob in Cleveland, and the The Flathead gang in Detroit.
As for your specific question about German or Prussian mafias operating in the United states, I have to say that I haven't found any references to a significant 'German mafia' or 'Prussian mafia' operating in the United States.
I did find this post on Reddit that also seems to suggest that, while it seems likely that there were some German criminal groups active in the US, they didn't operate on the same scale as some other groups:
I've researched and written about the early years of the Mafia in the US, and looked at Jewish and Irish organised crime in New York as well, I have never come across any references to a German equivalent. This is not to say it never occurred – and in fact, given that at least 6 million German emigrated to the US during the 19th and early 20th centuries, I'd be very surprised if it never did – but certainly Germans were not as prominent as other ethnic groups in organised crime.
Finally, it is worth noting that Wikipedia maintains a list of '"Criminal enterprises, gangs and syndicates", which includes a (presumably not exhaustive) list of gangs operating in the United States.
Included in this list you will also find the Jewish-American organised-crime groups that were active in the United States in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, and which are not infrequently referred to as the ' Jewish Mafia' in the media and popular culture. Some members of these groups did have German ancestry.
The Jewish mafia might be another example worth including here.
– Brian Z
2 hours ago
@BrianZ Thanks. I was in the process of adding them as part of the latest edit.
– sempaiscuba♦
2 hours ago
add a comment |
Probably the best-known non-Italian 'ethnic-based mafia' that operated in the USA was the Unione Corse.
This group were not North-European, but were part of the Corsican Mafia and maintained the so-called French Connection monopoly, controlling the import of Heroin, from French Indo-China, through France (and Canada) into the United States from the 1930s until the late 1970s.
The Irish organised crime groups that operated from the nineteenth century onwards are another well known group that might be classified as an 'ethnic-based mafia'. Sometimes collectively known as the "Irish Mob", this group actually originated in the Irish street gangs in the United States.
Those gangs were made famous (or, perhaps more accurately, infamous) by Herbert Asbury's 1928 book The Gangs of New York, which was loosely adapted into Martin Scorsese's 2002 film of the same name. As a group whose members are linked to a North-European country, this might meet your requirements.
In this case, the Irish Mob appears to have originated in the US in the nineteenth century and then expanded back into Ireland at some point in the 1960s. This growth of organised crime in Ireland was the subject of the 3-part documentary series Bad Fellas on RTÉ Television.
Although operating on a smaller scale, the so-called "Polish Mob" are another North-European 'ethnic-based mafia'.
Some well-known elements include the Saltis-McErlane Gang in Chicago, the Kielbasa Posse in Philadelphis, the Greenpoint Crew from Brooklyn, the Flats Mob in Cleveland, and the The Flathead gang in Detroit.
As for your specific question about German or Prussian mafias operating in the United states, I have to say that I haven't found any references to a significant 'German mafia' or 'Prussian mafia' operating in the United States.
I did find this post on Reddit that also seems to suggest that, while it seems likely that there were some German criminal groups active in the US, they didn't operate on the same scale as some other groups:
I've researched and written about the early years of the Mafia in the US, and looked at Jewish and Irish organised crime in New York as well, I have never come across any references to a German equivalent. This is not to say it never occurred – and in fact, given that at least 6 million German emigrated to the US during the 19th and early 20th centuries, I'd be very surprised if it never did – but certainly Germans were not as prominent as other ethnic groups in organised crime.
Finally, it is worth noting that Wikipedia maintains a list of '"Criminal enterprises, gangs and syndicates", which includes a (presumably not exhaustive) list of gangs operating in the United States.
Included in this list you will also find the Jewish-American organised-crime groups that were active in the United States in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, and which are not infrequently referred to as the ' Jewish Mafia' in the media and popular culture. Some members of these groups did have German ancestry.
Probably the best-known non-Italian 'ethnic-based mafia' that operated in the USA was the Unione Corse.
This group were not North-European, but were part of the Corsican Mafia and maintained the so-called French Connection monopoly, controlling the import of Heroin, from French Indo-China, through France (and Canada) into the United States from the 1930s until the late 1970s.
The Irish organised crime groups that operated from the nineteenth century onwards are another well known group that might be classified as an 'ethnic-based mafia'. Sometimes collectively known as the "Irish Mob", this group actually originated in the Irish street gangs in the United States.
Those gangs were made famous (or, perhaps more accurately, infamous) by Herbert Asbury's 1928 book The Gangs of New York, which was loosely adapted into Martin Scorsese's 2002 film of the same name. As a group whose members are linked to a North-European country, this might meet your requirements.
In this case, the Irish Mob appears to have originated in the US in the nineteenth century and then expanded back into Ireland at some point in the 1960s. This growth of organised crime in Ireland was the subject of the 3-part documentary series Bad Fellas on RTÉ Television.
Although operating on a smaller scale, the so-called "Polish Mob" are another North-European 'ethnic-based mafia'.
Some well-known elements include the Saltis-McErlane Gang in Chicago, the Kielbasa Posse in Philadelphis, the Greenpoint Crew from Brooklyn, the Flats Mob in Cleveland, and the The Flathead gang in Detroit.
As for your specific question about German or Prussian mafias operating in the United states, I have to say that I haven't found any references to a significant 'German mafia' or 'Prussian mafia' operating in the United States.
I did find this post on Reddit that also seems to suggest that, while it seems likely that there were some German criminal groups active in the US, they didn't operate on the same scale as some other groups:
I've researched and written about the early years of the Mafia in the US, and looked at Jewish and Irish organised crime in New York as well, I have never come across any references to a German equivalent. This is not to say it never occurred – and in fact, given that at least 6 million German emigrated to the US during the 19th and early 20th centuries, I'd be very surprised if it never did – but certainly Germans were not as prominent as other ethnic groups in organised crime.
Finally, it is worth noting that Wikipedia maintains a list of '"Criminal enterprises, gangs and syndicates", which includes a (presumably not exhaustive) list of gangs operating in the United States.
Included in this list you will also find the Jewish-American organised-crime groups that were active in the United States in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, and which are not infrequently referred to as the ' Jewish Mafia' in the media and popular culture. Some members of these groups did have German ancestry.
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The Jewish mafia might be another example worth including here.
– Brian Z
2 hours ago
@BrianZ Thanks. I was in the process of adding them as part of the latest edit.
– sempaiscuba♦
2 hours ago
add a comment |
The Jewish mafia might be another example worth including here.
– Brian Z
2 hours ago
@BrianZ Thanks. I was in the process of adding them as part of the latest edit.
– sempaiscuba♦
2 hours ago
The Jewish mafia might be another example worth including here.
– Brian Z
2 hours ago
The Jewish mafia might be another example worth including here.
– Brian Z
2 hours ago
@BrianZ Thanks. I was in the process of adding them as part of the latest edit.
– sempaiscuba♦
2 hours ago
@BrianZ Thanks. I was in the process of adding them as part of the latest edit.
– sempaiscuba♦
2 hours ago
add a comment |
Question:
Non Italian European organized crime groups in the United States.
Ethnic Organized Crime groups which meet the criteria of your question operating in the United States are.
69th St Gang Philadelphia Jewish Gang
Cape Verdean - French, Netherlands, Portugal, and New England
The Combined (Group) - Jewish Italian Irish Organized Crime precursor to the Cosa Nostra- The Irish Mob
The Israeli Mob - Jewish
Lenox Avenue Gang - Jewish
Purple Gang - predominantly Jewish members
Russian Mafia - Russian
Solomon Crime Family - Jewish Russian
Sagansky Organization - Jewish- Philadelphia Greek Mob
Velentzas Crime Family - Greek
Oddly enough the Mafia or Cosa Nostra was an extension of the highly organized Sicilian mafia not Italian mafia.
1
The Hell's Angels likely count too, as they generally don't allow non-white (eg: European-descended) members.
– T.E.D.♦
1 hour ago
2
@T.E.D. One could probable list more than 20 biker gangs like that as well as various Arian Groups ,
– JMS
1 hour ago
3
@LangLangC The difference between Sicily and Italy is greater than the difference between Germany and Austria. Sicilians have a different language, complexion, and culture. Particularly when dealing Pre-Italian Unification or the first few generations afterwards, the two are quite different.
– Lan
40 mins ago
3
@LangLangC, The Cosa Nostra or Five Families which made up the American Mafia were ( Bonanno, Colombo, Gambino, Genovese and Lucchese.). All Sicilian. To be a "made man" or officer in the organization you had to be 100% Sicilian. Famous gangsters like Al Capone (a Neapolitan) were excluded and worked in contention with the Five families. Capone killed Frankie Yates in 1928 because Frankie a Sicilian wouldn't sell his Brooklin club to the non Sicilian. The Mafia was famous for building Las Vegas, attempting to dominate Cuba, and operating Murder Inc ( a largely jewish offshoot.).
– JMS
25 mins ago
1
Frankie Yale was Al Capone's original crime boss in NY City. Yale was said to be one of the most powerful members of the NY Mafia (Brooklyn) when he was killed by Capone in 1928. Capone murdered Yale because Yale refused to give Capone, a Neapolitan, control over the Unione Siciliana fraternal association.. It wasn't enough to be Italian in the Mafia, You had to be Sicilian.
– JMS
8 mins ago
|
show 4 more comments
Question:
Non Italian European organized crime groups in the United States.
Ethnic Organized Crime groups which meet the criteria of your question operating in the United States are.
69th St Gang Philadelphia Jewish Gang
Cape Verdean - French, Netherlands, Portugal, and New England
The Combined (Group) - Jewish Italian Irish Organized Crime precursor to the Cosa Nostra- The Irish Mob
The Israeli Mob - Jewish
Lenox Avenue Gang - Jewish
Purple Gang - predominantly Jewish members
Russian Mafia - Russian
Solomon Crime Family - Jewish Russian
Sagansky Organization - Jewish- Philadelphia Greek Mob
Velentzas Crime Family - Greek
Oddly enough the Mafia or Cosa Nostra was an extension of the highly organized Sicilian mafia not Italian mafia.
1
The Hell's Angels likely count too, as they generally don't allow non-white (eg: European-descended) members.
– T.E.D.♦
1 hour ago
2
@T.E.D. One could probable list more than 20 biker gangs like that as well as various Arian Groups ,
– JMS
1 hour ago
3
@LangLangC The difference between Sicily and Italy is greater than the difference between Germany and Austria. Sicilians have a different language, complexion, and culture. Particularly when dealing Pre-Italian Unification or the first few generations afterwards, the two are quite different.
– Lan
40 mins ago
3
@LangLangC, The Cosa Nostra or Five Families which made up the American Mafia were ( Bonanno, Colombo, Gambino, Genovese and Lucchese.). All Sicilian. To be a "made man" or officer in the organization you had to be 100% Sicilian. Famous gangsters like Al Capone (a Neapolitan) were excluded and worked in contention with the Five families. Capone killed Frankie Yates in 1928 because Frankie a Sicilian wouldn't sell his Brooklin club to the non Sicilian. The Mafia was famous for building Las Vegas, attempting to dominate Cuba, and operating Murder Inc ( a largely jewish offshoot.).
– JMS
25 mins ago
1
Frankie Yale was Al Capone's original crime boss in NY City. Yale was said to be one of the most powerful members of the NY Mafia (Brooklyn) when he was killed by Capone in 1928. Capone murdered Yale because Yale refused to give Capone, a Neapolitan, control over the Unione Siciliana fraternal association.. It wasn't enough to be Italian in the Mafia, You had to be Sicilian.
– JMS
8 mins ago
|
show 4 more comments
Question:
Non Italian European organized crime groups in the United States.
Ethnic Organized Crime groups which meet the criteria of your question operating in the United States are.
69th St Gang Philadelphia Jewish Gang
Cape Verdean - French, Netherlands, Portugal, and New England
The Combined (Group) - Jewish Italian Irish Organized Crime precursor to the Cosa Nostra- The Irish Mob
The Israeli Mob - Jewish
Lenox Avenue Gang - Jewish
Purple Gang - predominantly Jewish members
Russian Mafia - Russian
Solomon Crime Family - Jewish Russian
Sagansky Organization - Jewish- Philadelphia Greek Mob
Velentzas Crime Family - Greek
Oddly enough the Mafia or Cosa Nostra was an extension of the highly organized Sicilian mafia not Italian mafia.
Question:
Non Italian European organized crime groups in the United States.
Ethnic Organized Crime groups which meet the criteria of your question operating in the United States are.
69th St Gang Philadelphia Jewish Gang
Cape Verdean - French, Netherlands, Portugal, and New England
The Combined (Group) - Jewish Italian Irish Organized Crime precursor to the Cosa Nostra- The Irish Mob
The Israeli Mob - Jewish
Lenox Avenue Gang - Jewish
Purple Gang - predominantly Jewish members
Russian Mafia - Russian
Solomon Crime Family - Jewish Russian
Sagansky Organization - Jewish- Philadelphia Greek Mob
Velentzas Crime Family - Greek
Oddly enough the Mafia or Cosa Nostra was an extension of the highly organized Sicilian mafia not Italian mafia.
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The Hell's Angels likely count too, as they generally don't allow non-white (eg: European-descended) members.
– T.E.D.♦
1 hour ago
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@T.E.D. One could probable list more than 20 biker gangs like that as well as various Arian Groups ,
– JMS
1 hour ago
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@LangLangC The difference between Sicily and Italy is greater than the difference between Germany and Austria. Sicilians have a different language, complexion, and culture. Particularly when dealing Pre-Italian Unification or the first few generations afterwards, the two are quite different.
– Lan
40 mins ago
3
@LangLangC, The Cosa Nostra or Five Families which made up the American Mafia were ( Bonanno, Colombo, Gambino, Genovese and Lucchese.). All Sicilian. To be a "made man" or officer in the organization you had to be 100% Sicilian. Famous gangsters like Al Capone (a Neapolitan) were excluded and worked in contention with the Five families. Capone killed Frankie Yates in 1928 because Frankie a Sicilian wouldn't sell his Brooklin club to the non Sicilian. The Mafia was famous for building Las Vegas, attempting to dominate Cuba, and operating Murder Inc ( a largely jewish offshoot.).
– JMS
25 mins ago
1
Frankie Yale was Al Capone's original crime boss in NY City. Yale was said to be one of the most powerful members of the NY Mafia (Brooklyn) when he was killed by Capone in 1928. Capone murdered Yale because Yale refused to give Capone, a Neapolitan, control over the Unione Siciliana fraternal association.. It wasn't enough to be Italian in the Mafia, You had to be Sicilian.
– JMS
8 mins ago
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1
The Hell's Angels likely count too, as they generally don't allow non-white (eg: European-descended) members.
– T.E.D.♦
1 hour ago
2
@T.E.D. One could probable list more than 20 biker gangs like that as well as various Arian Groups ,
– JMS
1 hour ago
3
@LangLangC The difference between Sicily and Italy is greater than the difference between Germany and Austria. Sicilians have a different language, complexion, and culture. Particularly when dealing Pre-Italian Unification or the first few generations afterwards, the two are quite different.
– Lan
40 mins ago
3
@LangLangC, The Cosa Nostra or Five Families which made up the American Mafia were ( Bonanno, Colombo, Gambino, Genovese and Lucchese.). All Sicilian. To be a "made man" or officer in the organization you had to be 100% Sicilian. Famous gangsters like Al Capone (a Neapolitan) were excluded and worked in contention with the Five families. Capone killed Frankie Yates in 1928 because Frankie a Sicilian wouldn't sell his Brooklin club to the non Sicilian. The Mafia was famous for building Las Vegas, attempting to dominate Cuba, and operating Murder Inc ( a largely jewish offshoot.).
– JMS
25 mins ago
1
Frankie Yale was Al Capone's original crime boss in NY City. Yale was said to be one of the most powerful members of the NY Mafia (Brooklyn) when he was killed by Capone in 1928. Capone murdered Yale because Yale refused to give Capone, a Neapolitan, control over the Unione Siciliana fraternal association.. It wasn't enough to be Italian in the Mafia, You had to be Sicilian.
– JMS
8 mins ago
1
1
The Hell's Angels likely count too, as they generally don't allow non-white (eg: European-descended) members.
– T.E.D.♦
1 hour ago
The Hell's Angels likely count too, as they generally don't allow non-white (eg: European-descended) members.
– T.E.D.♦
1 hour ago
2
2
@T.E.D. One could probable list more than 20 biker gangs like that as well as various Arian Groups ,
– JMS
1 hour ago
@T.E.D. One could probable list more than 20 biker gangs like that as well as various Arian Groups ,
– JMS
1 hour ago
3
3
@LangLangC The difference between Sicily and Italy is greater than the difference between Germany and Austria. Sicilians have a different language, complexion, and culture. Particularly when dealing Pre-Italian Unification or the first few generations afterwards, the two are quite different.
– Lan
40 mins ago
@LangLangC The difference between Sicily and Italy is greater than the difference between Germany and Austria. Sicilians have a different language, complexion, and culture. Particularly when dealing Pre-Italian Unification or the first few generations afterwards, the two are quite different.
– Lan
40 mins ago
3
3
@LangLangC, The Cosa Nostra or Five Families which made up the American Mafia were ( Bonanno, Colombo, Gambino, Genovese and Lucchese.). All Sicilian. To be a "made man" or officer in the organization you had to be 100% Sicilian. Famous gangsters like Al Capone (a Neapolitan) were excluded and worked in contention with the Five families. Capone killed Frankie Yates in 1928 because Frankie a Sicilian wouldn't sell his Brooklin club to the non Sicilian. The Mafia was famous for building Las Vegas, attempting to dominate Cuba, and operating Murder Inc ( a largely jewish offshoot.).
– JMS
25 mins ago
@LangLangC, The Cosa Nostra or Five Families which made up the American Mafia were ( Bonanno, Colombo, Gambino, Genovese and Lucchese.). All Sicilian. To be a "made man" or officer in the organization you had to be 100% Sicilian. Famous gangsters like Al Capone (a Neapolitan) were excluded and worked in contention with the Five families. Capone killed Frankie Yates in 1928 because Frankie a Sicilian wouldn't sell his Brooklin club to the non Sicilian. The Mafia was famous for building Las Vegas, attempting to dominate Cuba, and operating Murder Inc ( a largely jewish offshoot.).
– JMS
25 mins ago
1
1
Frankie Yale was Al Capone's original crime boss in NY City. Yale was said to be one of the most powerful members of the NY Mafia (Brooklyn) when he was killed by Capone in 1928. Capone murdered Yale because Yale refused to give Capone, a Neapolitan, control over the Unione Siciliana fraternal association.. It wasn't enough to be Italian in the Mafia, You had to be Sicilian.
– JMS
8 mins ago
Frankie Yale was Al Capone's original crime boss in NY City. Yale was said to be one of the most powerful members of the NY Mafia (Brooklyn) when he was killed by Capone in 1928. Capone murdered Yale because Yale refused to give Capone, a Neapolitan, control over the Unione Siciliana fraternal association.. It wasn't enough to be Italian in the Mafia, You had to be Sicilian.
– JMS
8 mins ago
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