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Counting monomials in skew-symmetric+diagonal matrices


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This question is motivated by Richard Stanley's answer to this MO question.



Let $g(n)$ be the number of distinct monomials in the expansion of the determinant of an $ntimes n$ generic "skew-symmetric $+$ diagonal" matrix.



For example, $g(3)=4$ since
begin{align*}
detbegin{pmatrix} x_{1,1}&x_{1,2}&x_{1,3} \
-x_{1,2}&x_{2,2}&x_{2,3} \ -x_{1,3}&-x_{2,3}&x_{3,3}
end{pmatrix}
&=x_{1, 1}x_{2, 2}x_{3, 3}+x_{1, 1}x_{2, 3}^2+x_{1, 2}^2x_{3, 3}
+x_{1, 3}^2x_{2, 2}.
end{align*}

The sequence $g(n)$ seems to have found a match in OEIS with the generating function
$$ sum_{ngeq 0} g(n)frac{x^n}{n!} = frac{e^x}{1-frac12x^2}.$$




QUESTION. Is it true and can you furnish a proof for
$$g(n)=sum_{k=0}^{lfloor frac{n}2rfloor}frac{n!}{(n-2k)!,,2^k}?$$




POSTSCRIPT. I'm convinced by Stanley's reply below, so let's correct the above guess to
$$g(n)=sum_{k=0}^{lfloor n/2rfloor}binom{n}{2k}frac{(2k)!}{k!}cdotprod_{i=1}^kfrac{4i-3}4cdotsum_{j=0}^{lfloor n-k/2rfloor}
binom{n-2k}{2j}frac{(2j)!}{4^j,j!}.$$










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    If we fix all $n-2k$ diagonal elements, it remains a $2ktimes 2k$ squared Pfaffian. It should contain $(2k)!/2^k$ monomials. On purely combinatorial language, the squared Pfaffian monomials correspond to permutations with even cycles only, but we count these permutations up to the change of order of cycles. In other words, we count the spanning subgraphs of $K_{2n}$ in which every component is either an even cycle or an edge.
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$begingroup$


This question is motivated by Richard Stanley's answer to this MO question.



Let $g(n)$ be the number of distinct monomials in the expansion of the determinant of an $ntimes n$ generic "skew-symmetric $+$ diagonal" matrix.



For example, $g(3)=4$ since
begin{align*}
detbegin{pmatrix} x_{1,1}&x_{1,2}&x_{1,3} \
-x_{1,2}&x_{2,2}&x_{2,3} \ -x_{1,3}&-x_{2,3}&x_{3,3}
end{pmatrix}
&=x_{1, 1}x_{2, 2}x_{3, 3}+x_{1, 1}x_{2, 3}^2+x_{1, 2}^2x_{3, 3}
+x_{1, 3}^2x_{2, 2}.
end{align*}

The sequence $g(n)$ seems to have found a match in OEIS with the generating function
$$ sum_{ngeq 0} g(n)frac{x^n}{n!} = frac{e^x}{1-frac12x^2}.$$




QUESTION. Is it true and can you furnish a proof for
$$g(n)=sum_{k=0}^{lfloor frac{n}2rfloor}frac{n!}{(n-2k)!,,2^k}?$$




POSTSCRIPT. I'm convinced by Stanley's reply below, so let's correct the above guess to
$$g(n)=sum_{k=0}^{lfloor n/2rfloor}binom{n}{2k}frac{(2k)!}{k!}cdotprod_{i=1}^kfrac{4i-3}4cdotsum_{j=0}^{lfloor n-k/2rfloor}
binom{n-2k}{2j}frac{(2j)!}{4^j,j!}.$$










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    $begingroup$
    If we fix all $n-2k$ diagonal elements, it remains a $2ktimes 2k$ squared Pfaffian. It should contain $(2k)!/2^k$ monomials. On purely combinatorial language, the squared Pfaffian monomials correspond to permutations with even cycles only, but we count these permutations up to the change of order of cycles. In other words, we count the spanning subgraphs of $K_{2n}$ in which every component is either an even cycle or an edge.
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    – Fedor Petrov
    4 hours ago














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$begingroup$


This question is motivated by Richard Stanley's answer to this MO question.



Let $g(n)$ be the number of distinct monomials in the expansion of the determinant of an $ntimes n$ generic "skew-symmetric $+$ diagonal" matrix.



For example, $g(3)=4$ since
begin{align*}
detbegin{pmatrix} x_{1,1}&x_{1,2}&x_{1,3} \
-x_{1,2}&x_{2,2}&x_{2,3} \ -x_{1,3}&-x_{2,3}&x_{3,3}
end{pmatrix}
&=x_{1, 1}x_{2, 2}x_{3, 3}+x_{1, 1}x_{2, 3}^2+x_{1, 2}^2x_{3, 3}
+x_{1, 3}^2x_{2, 2}.
end{align*}

The sequence $g(n)$ seems to have found a match in OEIS with the generating function
$$ sum_{ngeq 0} g(n)frac{x^n}{n!} = frac{e^x}{1-frac12x^2}.$$




QUESTION. Is it true and can you furnish a proof for
$$g(n)=sum_{k=0}^{lfloor frac{n}2rfloor}frac{n!}{(n-2k)!,,2^k}?$$




POSTSCRIPT. I'm convinced by Stanley's reply below, so let's correct the above guess to
$$g(n)=sum_{k=0}^{lfloor n/2rfloor}binom{n}{2k}frac{(2k)!}{k!}cdotprod_{i=1}^kfrac{4i-3}4cdotsum_{j=0}^{lfloor n-k/2rfloor}
binom{n-2k}{2j}frac{(2j)!}{4^j,j!}.$$










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This question is motivated by Richard Stanley's answer to this MO question.



Let $g(n)$ be the number of distinct monomials in the expansion of the determinant of an $ntimes n$ generic "skew-symmetric $+$ diagonal" matrix.



For example, $g(3)=4$ since
begin{align*}
detbegin{pmatrix} x_{1,1}&x_{1,2}&x_{1,3} \
-x_{1,2}&x_{2,2}&x_{2,3} \ -x_{1,3}&-x_{2,3}&x_{3,3}
end{pmatrix}
&=x_{1, 1}x_{2, 2}x_{3, 3}+x_{1, 1}x_{2, 3}^2+x_{1, 2}^2x_{3, 3}
+x_{1, 3}^2x_{2, 2}.
end{align*}

The sequence $g(n)$ seems to have found a match in OEIS with the generating function
$$ sum_{ngeq 0} g(n)frac{x^n}{n!} = frac{e^x}{1-frac12x^2}.$$




QUESTION. Is it true and can you furnish a proof for
$$g(n)=sum_{k=0}^{lfloor frac{n}2rfloor}frac{n!}{(n-2k)!,,2^k}?$$




POSTSCRIPT. I'm convinced by Stanley's reply below, so let's correct the above guess to
$$g(n)=sum_{k=0}^{lfloor n/2rfloor}binom{n}{2k}frac{(2k)!}{k!}cdotprod_{i=1}^kfrac{4i-3}4cdotsum_{j=0}^{lfloor n-k/2rfloor}
binom{n-2k}{2j}frac{(2j)!}{4^j,j!}.$$







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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    If we fix all $n-2k$ diagonal elements, it remains a $2ktimes 2k$ squared Pfaffian. It should contain $(2k)!/2^k$ monomials. On purely combinatorial language, the squared Pfaffian monomials correspond to permutations with even cycles only, but we count these permutations up to the change of order of cycles. In other words, we count the spanning subgraphs of $K_{2n}$ in which every component is either an even cycle or an edge.
    $endgroup$
    – Fedor Petrov
    4 hours ago














  • 1




    $begingroup$
    If we fix all $n-2k$ diagonal elements, it remains a $2ktimes 2k$ squared Pfaffian. It should contain $(2k)!/2^k$ monomials. On purely combinatorial language, the squared Pfaffian monomials correspond to permutations with even cycles only, but we count these permutations up to the change of order of cycles. In other words, we count the spanning subgraphs of $K_{2n}$ in which every component is either an even cycle or an edge.
    $endgroup$
    – Fedor Petrov
    4 hours ago








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$begingroup$
If we fix all $n-2k$ diagonal elements, it remains a $2ktimes 2k$ squared Pfaffian. It should contain $(2k)!/2^k$ monomials. On purely combinatorial language, the squared Pfaffian monomials correspond to permutations with even cycles only, but we count these permutations up to the change of order of cycles. In other words, we count the spanning subgraphs of $K_{2n}$ in which every component is either an even cycle or an edge.
$endgroup$
– Fedor Petrov
4 hours ago




$begingroup$
If we fix all $n-2k$ diagonal elements, it remains a $2ktimes 2k$ squared Pfaffian. It should contain $(2k)!/2^k$ monomials. On purely combinatorial language, the squared Pfaffian monomials correspond to permutations with even cycles only, but we count these permutations up to the change of order of cycles. In other words, we count the spanning subgraphs of $K_{2n}$ in which every component is either an even cycle or an edge.
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The correct generating function is
$$ expleft( x +frac{x^2}{2}+frac 12sum_{ngeq 2}frac{x^{2n}}{2n}right)
=frac{expleft(x+frac{x^2}{4}right)}{(1-x^2)^{1/4}}. $$

This appears in http://oeis.org/A243107, but without a combinatorial or algebraic interpretation. For skew symmetric matrices just multiply by $e^{-x}$.






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The correct generating function is
$$ expleft( x +frac{x^2}{2}+frac 12sum_{ngeq 2}frac{x^{2n}}{2n}right)
=frac{expleft(x+frac{x^2}{4}right)}{(1-x^2)^{1/4}}. $$

This appears in http://oeis.org/A243107, but without a combinatorial or algebraic interpretation. For skew symmetric matrices just multiply by $e^{-x}$.






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$begingroup$

The correct generating function is
$$ expleft( x +frac{x^2}{2}+frac 12sum_{ngeq 2}frac{x^{2n}}{2n}right)
=frac{expleft(x+frac{x^2}{4}right)}{(1-x^2)^{1/4}}. $$

This appears in http://oeis.org/A243107, but without a combinatorial or algebraic interpretation. For skew symmetric matrices just multiply by $e^{-x}$.






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    Oh, you are right, I missed out on my counting. Thank you!
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$begingroup$

The correct generating function is
$$ expleft( x +frac{x^2}{2}+frac 12sum_{ngeq 2}frac{x^{2n}}{2n}right)
=frac{expleft(x+frac{x^2}{4}right)}{(1-x^2)^{1/4}}. $$

This appears in http://oeis.org/A243107, but without a combinatorial or algebraic interpretation. For skew symmetric matrices just multiply by $e^{-x}$.






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The correct generating function is
$$ expleft( x +frac{x^2}{2}+frac 12sum_{ngeq 2}frac{x^{2n}}{2n}right)
=frac{expleft(x+frac{x^2}{4}right)}{(1-x^2)^{1/4}}. $$

This appears in http://oeis.org/A243107, but without a combinatorial or algebraic interpretation. For skew symmetric matrices just multiply by $e^{-x}$.







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