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When did Star Trek stop using models?


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When did Star Trek stop using (real) models for exterior shots of spacecraft? I recall that there was an actual DS9 model and NCC-1701-D that were up for sale, but I don't think there was a Voyager.










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          The special effects team stopped making new models in the later seasons of Voyager and never resumed.



          Enterprise was the first series to have absolutely no models. To provide a quote from that article:




          With Enterprise there are no models, not even a visual model for the
          ship except for a paper version created in order to envision how
          certain shots might work. "I guess in a sense it is a precedent,
          Voyager being the last one to use practicals, even though they went
          away from them in the end," notes Bonchune. "This show is all CGI. We
          built a CG version of a real ship, with the difference being in the
          small details. You can sit on the hull on certain parts of the ship.
          You can keep a camera flying in so you can see writing on small panels
          on the cargo doors. If it was a filming miniature, you could never do
          that."




          (emphasis mine)



          CGI became good enough for cheap enough that it could be used instead.



          Wikipedia says that Voyager stopped using models in Season 3.




          Voyager was also the first Star Trek TV show to eliminate the use of
          models for exterior space shots and exclusively use computer-generated
          imagery (CGI) instead. Other television shows such as seaQuest DSV and
          Babylon 5 had previously used CGI exclusively to avoid the huge
          expense of models, but the Star Trek television department continued
          using models, because they felt models provided better realism. Amblin
          Imaging won an Emmy for the opening CGI title visuals, but the weekly
          episode exteriors were captured using hand-built miniatures of the
          Voyager, shuttlecraft, and other ships. That changed when Star Trek:
          Voyager went fully CGI for certain types of shots midway through
          Season 3 (late 1996).3 Paramount obtained an exclusive contract with
          Foundation Imaging, the studio responsible for special effects during
          Babylon 5's first three seasons. Season 3's "The Swarm" was the first
          episode to use Foundation's effects exclusively. Deep Space Nine
          started using Foundation Imaging in conjunction with Digital Muse one
          year later (season 6). In its later seasons, Voyager featured visual
          effects from Foundation and Digital Muse.




          model of Voyager






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            ...it was a dark time for the Federation =

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          • @22ndCenturyFza Every episode of Enterprise makes me feel like that.

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            @22ndCenturyFza: No, the dark time for the Federation was when Voyager came back. For the Federation at large, that was a golden age - the Maquais, Janeway, 'Deadman' Kim, etc were all gone and no one had even heard of Neelix.

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          The special effects team stopped making new models in the later seasons of Voyager and never resumed.



          Enterprise was the first series to have absolutely no models. To provide a quote from that article:




          With Enterprise there are no models, not even a visual model for the
          ship except for a paper version created in order to envision how
          certain shots might work. "I guess in a sense it is a precedent,
          Voyager being the last one to use practicals, even though they went
          away from them in the end," notes Bonchune. "This show is all CGI. We
          built a CG version of a real ship, with the difference being in the
          small details. You can sit on the hull on certain parts of the ship.
          You can keep a camera flying in so you can see writing on small panels
          on the cargo doors. If it was a filming miniature, you could never do
          that."




          (emphasis mine)



          CGI became good enough for cheap enough that it could be used instead.



          Wikipedia says that Voyager stopped using models in Season 3.




          Voyager was also the first Star Trek TV show to eliminate the use of
          models for exterior space shots and exclusively use computer-generated
          imagery (CGI) instead. Other television shows such as seaQuest DSV and
          Babylon 5 had previously used CGI exclusively to avoid the huge
          expense of models, but the Star Trek television department continued
          using models, because they felt models provided better realism. Amblin
          Imaging won an Emmy for the opening CGI title visuals, but the weekly
          episode exteriors were captured using hand-built miniatures of the
          Voyager, shuttlecraft, and other ships. That changed when Star Trek:
          Voyager went fully CGI for certain types of shots midway through
          Season 3 (late 1996).3 Paramount obtained an exclusive contract with
          Foundation Imaging, the studio responsible for special effects during
          Babylon 5's first three seasons. Season 3's "The Swarm" was the first
          episode to use Foundation's effects exclusively. Deep Space Nine
          started using Foundation Imaging in conjunction with Digital Muse one
          year later (season 6). In its later seasons, Voyager featured visual
          effects from Foundation and Digital Muse.




          model of Voyager






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            ...it was a dark time for the Federation =

            – 22nd Century Fza
            Mar 23 '14 at 5:04













          • @22ndCenturyFza Every episode of Enterprise makes me feel like that.

            – Marriott81
            Mar 24 '14 at 11:20








          • 1





            @22ndCenturyFza: No, the dark time for the Federation was when Voyager came back. For the Federation at large, that was a golden age - the Maquais, Janeway, 'Deadman' Kim, etc were all gone and no one had even heard of Neelix.

            – Jeff
            Mar 24 '14 at 13:08
















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          The special effects team stopped making new models in the later seasons of Voyager and never resumed.



          Enterprise was the first series to have absolutely no models. To provide a quote from that article:




          With Enterprise there are no models, not even a visual model for the
          ship except for a paper version created in order to envision how
          certain shots might work. "I guess in a sense it is a precedent,
          Voyager being the last one to use practicals, even though they went
          away from them in the end," notes Bonchune. "This show is all CGI. We
          built a CG version of a real ship, with the difference being in the
          small details. You can sit on the hull on certain parts of the ship.
          You can keep a camera flying in so you can see writing on small panels
          on the cargo doors. If it was a filming miniature, you could never do
          that."




          (emphasis mine)



          CGI became good enough for cheap enough that it could be used instead.



          Wikipedia says that Voyager stopped using models in Season 3.




          Voyager was also the first Star Trek TV show to eliminate the use of
          models for exterior space shots and exclusively use computer-generated
          imagery (CGI) instead. Other television shows such as seaQuest DSV and
          Babylon 5 had previously used CGI exclusively to avoid the huge
          expense of models, but the Star Trek television department continued
          using models, because they felt models provided better realism. Amblin
          Imaging won an Emmy for the opening CGI title visuals, but the weekly
          episode exteriors were captured using hand-built miniatures of the
          Voyager, shuttlecraft, and other ships. That changed when Star Trek:
          Voyager went fully CGI for certain types of shots midway through
          Season 3 (late 1996).3 Paramount obtained an exclusive contract with
          Foundation Imaging, the studio responsible for special effects during
          Babylon 5's first three seasons. Season 3's "The Swarm" was the first
          episode to use Foundation's effects exclusively. Deep Space Nine
          started using Foundation Imaging in conjunction with Digital Muse one
          year later (season 6). In its later seasons, Voyager featured visual
          effects from Foundation and Digital Muse.




          model of Voyager






          share|improve this answer





















          • 1





            ...it was a dark time for the Federation =

            – 22nd Century Fza
            Mar 23 '14 at 5:04













          • @22ndCenturyFza Every episode of Enterprise makes me feel like that.

            – Marriott81
            Mar 24 '14 at 11:20








          • 1





            @22ndCenturyFza: No, the dark time for the Federation was when Voyager came back. For the Federation at large, that was a golden age - the Maquais, Janeway, 'Deadman' Kim, etc were all gone and no one had even heard of Neelix.

            – Jeff
            Mar 24 '14 at 13:08














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          The special effects team stopped making new models in the later seasons of Voyager and never resumed.



          Enterprise was the first series to have absolutely no models. To provide a quote from that article:




          With Enterprise there are no models, not even a visual model for the
          ship except for a paper version created in order to envision how
          certain shots might work. "I guess in a sense it is a precedent,
          Voyager being the last one to use practicals, even though they went
          away from them in the end," notes Bonchune. "This show is all CGI. We
          built a CG version of a real ship, with the difference being in the
          small details. You can sit on the hull on certain parts of the ship.
          You can keep a camera flying in so you can see writing on small panels
          on the cargo doors. If it was a filming miniature, you could never do
          that."




          (emphasis mine)



          CGI became good enough for cheap enough that it could be used instead.



          Wikipedia says that Voyager stopped using models in Season 3.




          Voyager was also the first Star Trek TV show to eliminate the use of
          models for exterior space shots and exclusively use computer-generated
          imagery (CGI) instead. Other television shows such as seaQuest DSV and
          Babylon 5 had previously used CGI exclusively to avoid the huge
          expense of models, but the Star Trek television department continued
          using models, because they felt models provided better realism. Amblin
          Imaging won an Emmy for the opening CGI title visuals, but the weekly
          episode exteriors were captured using hand-built miniatures of the
          Voyager, shuttlecraft, and other ships. That changed when Star Trek:
          Voyager went fully CGI for certain types of shots midway through
          Season 3 (late 1996).3 Paramount obtained an exclusive contract with
          Foundation Imaging, the studio responsible for special effects during
          Babylon 5's first three seasons. Season 3's "The Swarm" was the first
          episode to use Foundation's effects exclusively. Deep Space Nine
          started using Foundation Imaging in conjunction with Digital Muse one
          year later (season 6). In its later seasons, Voyager featured visual
          effects from Foundation and Digital Muse.




          model of Voyager






          share|improve this answer















          The special effects team stopped making new models in the later seasons of Voyager and never resumed.



          Enterprise was the first series to have absolutely no models. To provide a quote from that article:




          With Enterprise there are no models, not even a visual model for the
          ship except for a paper version created in order to envision how
          certain shots might work. "I guess in a sense it is a precedent,
          Voyager being the last one to use practicals, even though they went
          away from them in the end," notes Bonchune. "This show is all CGI. We
          built a CG version of a real ship, with the difference being in the
          small details. You can sit on the hull on certain parts of the ship.
          You can keep a camera flying in so you can see writing on small panels
          on the cargo doors. If it was a filming miniature, you could never do
          that."




          (emphasis mine)



          CGI became good enough for cheap enough that it could be used instead.



          Wikipedia says that Voyager stopped using models in Season 3.




          Voyager was also the first Star Trek TV show to eliminate the use of
          models for exterior space shots and exclusively use computer-generated
          imagery (CGI) instead. Other television shows such as seaQuest DSV and
          Babylon 5 had previously used CGI exclusively to avoid the huge
          expense of models, but the Star Trek television department continued
          using models, because they felt models provided better realism. Amblin
          Imaging won an Emmy for the opening CGI title visuals, but the weekly
          episode exteriors were captured using hand-built miniatures of the
          Voyager, shuttlecraft, and other ships. That changed when Star Trek:
          Voyager went fully CGI for certain types of shots midway through
          Season 3 (late 1996).3 Paramount obtained an exclusive contract with
          Foundation Imaging, the studio responsible for special effects during
          Babylon 5's first three seasons. Season 3's "The Swarm" was the first
          episode to use Foundation's effects exclusively. Deep Space Nine
          started using Foundation Imaging in conjunction with Digital Muse one
          year later (season 6). In its later seasons, Voyager featured visual
          effects from Foundation and Digital Muse.




          model of Voyager







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            ...it was a dark time for the Federation =

            – 22nd Century Fza
            Mar 23 '14 at 5:04













          • @22ndCenturyFza Every episode of Enterprise makes me feel like that.

            – Marriott81
            Mar 24 '14 at 11:20








          • 1





            @22ndCenturyFza: No, the dark time for the Federation was when Voyager came back. For the Federation at large, that was a golden age - the Maquais, Janeway, 'Deadman' Kim, etc were all gone and no one had even heard of Neelix.

            – Jeff
            Mar 24 '14 at 13:08














          • 1





            ...it was a dark time for the Federation =

            – 22nd Century Fza
            Mar 23 '14 at 5:04













          • @22ndCenturyFza Every episode of Enterprise makes me feel like that.

            – Marriott81
            Mar 24 '14 at 11:20








          • 1





            @22ndCenturyFza: No, the dark time for the Federation was when Voyager came back. For the Federation at large, that was a golden age - the Maquais, Janeway, 'Deadman' Kim, etc were all gone and no one had even heard of Neelix.

            – Jeff
            Mar 24 '14 at 13:08








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          ...it was a dark time for the Federation =

          – 22nd Century Fza
          Mar 23 '14 at 5:04







          ...it was a dark time for the Federation =

          – 22nd Century Fza
          Mar 23 '14 at 5:04















          @22ndCenturyFza Every episode of Enterprise makes me feel like that.

          – Marriott81
          Mar 24 '14 at 11:20







          @22ndCenturyFza Every episode of Enterprise makes me feel like that.

          – Marriott81
          Mar 24 '14 at 11:20






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          @22ndCenturyFza: No, the dark time for the Federation was when Voyager came back. For the Federation at large, that was a golden age - the Maquais, Janeway, 'Deadman' Kim, etc were all gone and no one had even heard of Neelix.

          – Jeff
          Mar 24 '14 at 13:08





          @22ndCenturyFza: No, the dark time for the Federation was when Voyager came back. For the Federation at large, that was a golden age - the Maquais, Janeway, 'Deadman' Kim, etc were all gone and no one had even heard of Neelix.

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