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Can PCs use nonmagical armor and weapons looted from monsters?


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According to the PHB/basic rules, "Weapons and armor used by monsters are rarely in good enough condition to sell."



Are nonmagical weapons and armor used by monsters in good enough condition for PCs to equip and use themselves?










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This statement is mostly there to prevent ludicrous amounts of not-very-useful loot being distributed for every goblin or bandit in the game. It's a guideline rather than a rule, what loot is available (and what condition it is in) is ultimately up to the DM, but it's just kind of a waste of time to end up with 23 long swords, 14 short bows and 35 hide armors every time you run through a bandit stronghold.




Arms, Armor, and Other Equipment.

As a general rule, undamaged weapons, armor, and other equipment fetch half their cost when sold in a market. Weapons and armor used by monsters are rarely in good enough condition to sell. (PHB, p. 144)




It'd also increase the gold value of an average humanoids loot quite significantly if all their equipment was PC-grade weapons and armors, although I'm not sure how much of a problem this is in comparison with all the micro management that'd have to happen in this situation.






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As a rule, yes. If it fits



The section you quote is specifically about selling equipment that you find (PHB, p. 144)




Selling Treasure



Arms, Armor, and Other Equipment. A s a general rule, undamaged
weapons, armor, and other equipment fetch half their cost when sold in
a market. Weapons and armor used by monsters are rarely in good enough
condition to sell.




Rules for using equipment you find are found other places. Some significant rules are found in the following section on Equipment Sizes (PHB, p. 144, bold added).




Variant: Equipment Sizes



In most campaigns, you can use or wear any equipment that you find
on your adventures, within the bounds of common sense
. For example,
a burly half-orc won't fit in a halfling’s leather armor, and a gnome
would be swallowed up in a cloud giant’s elegant robe.



The DM can impose more realism. For example, a suit of plate armor
made for one human might not fit another one without significant
alterations, and a guard’s uniform might be visibly ill-fitting when
an adventurer tries to wear it as a disguise.




So most of the time, if you find equipment and it is reasonable for you to use it, you can. A DM is the final judge of what would be "reasonable" to use. Note that this decision could be based on something other than a creature's size. For example, a bow made for an Illithid could have a grip too alien and strange to be comfortably used by a humanoid. Also, whether or not equipment has been damaged may be a factor. A DM might decide that armor worn by Orks is usable if they were disabled by a sleep spell, but not if they were killed by a might blow from a warhammer. Armor that usually would fit might become too dented to be worn after you kill its occupant (although a DM might then have to bend over backwards to explain why your own armor is wearable after you've succeeded on three death saving throws).



However, some DMs may ignore any of these concerns and declare that every piece of equipment you find can be used by you. It all comes down to what they consider "common sense."






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    This statement is mostly there to prevent ludicrous amounts of not-very-useful loot being distributed for every goblin or bandit in the game. It's a guideline rather than a rule, what loot is available (and what condition it is in) is ultimately up to the DM, but it's just kind of a waste of time to end up with 23 long swords, 14 short bows and 35 hide armors every time you run through a bandit stronghold.




    Arms, Armor, and Other Equipment.

    As a general rule, undamaged weapons, armor, and other equipment fetch half their cost when sold in a market. Weapons and armor used by monsters are rarely in good enough condition to sell. (PHB, p. 144)




    It'd also increase the gold value of an average humanoids loot quite significantly if all their equipment was PC-grade weapons and armors, although I'm not sure how much of a problem this is in comparison with all the micro management that'd have to happen in this situation.






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    This statement is mostly there to prevent ludicrous amounts of not-very-useful loot being distributed for every goblin or bandit in the game. It's a guideline rather than a rule, what loot is available (and what condition it is in) is ultimately up to the DM, but it's just kind of a waste of time to end up with 23 long swords, 14 short bows and 35 hide armors every time you run through a bandit stronghold.




    Arms, Armor, and Other Equipment.

    As a general rule, undamaged weapons, armor, and other equipment fetch half their cost when sold in a market. Weapons and armor used by monsters are rarely in good enough condition to sell. (PHB, p. 144)




    It'd also increase the gold value of an average humanoids loot quite significantly if all their equipment was PC-grade weapons and armors, although I'm not sure how much of a problem this is in comparison with all the micro management that'd have to happen in this situation.






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    This statement is mostly there to prevent ludicrous amounts of not-very-useful loot being distributed for every goblin or bandit in the game. It's a guideline rather than a rule, what loot is available (and what condition it is in) is ultimately up to the DM, but it's just kind of a waste of time to end up with 23 long swords, 14 short bows and 35 hide armors every time you run through a bandit stronghold.




    Arms, Armor, and Other Equipment.

    As a general rule, undamaged weapons, armor, and other equipment fetch half their cost when sold in a market. Weapons and armor used by monsters are rarely in good enough condition to sell. (PHB, p. 144)




    It'd also increase the gold value of an average humanoids loot quite significantly if all their equipment was PC-grade weapons and armors, although I'm not sure how much of a problem this is in comparison with all the micro management that'd have to happen in this situation.






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    This statement is mostly there to prevent ludicrous amounts of not-very-useful loot being distributed for every goblin or bandit in the game. It's a guideline rather than a rule, what loot is available (and what condition it is in) is ultimately up to the DM, but it's just kind of a waste of time to end up with 23 long swords, 14 short bows and 35 hide armors every time you run through a bandit stronghold.




    Arms, Armor, and Other Equipment.

    As a general rule, undamaged weapons, armor, and other equipment fetch half their cost when sold in a market. Weapons and armor used by monsters are rarely in good enough condition to sell. (PHB, p. 144)




    It'd also increase the gold value of an average humanoids loot quite significantly if all their equipment was PC-grade weapons and armors, although I'm not sure how much of a problem this is in comparison with all the micro management that'd have to happen in this situation.







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      $begingroup$
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    As NautArch suggests, you should support your answer by citing relevant evidence or experience. Has this been an issue in your games? Or have you seen it discussed in the rules? Also, technically this doesn't actually answer OP's question - it just explains why the rule is worded the way it is. You should add a sentence or two at the beginning saying the answer (e.g. "Yes, you can use looted nonmagical armor/weapons just as you can usually use looted magic armor weapons.").
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    $begingroup$
    As NautArch suggests, you should support your answer by citing relevant evidence or experience. Has this been an issue in your games? Or have you seen it discussed in the rules? Also, technically this doesn't actually answer OP's question - it just explains why the rule is worded the way it is. You should add a sentence or two at the beginning saying the answer (e.g. "Yes, you can use looted nonmagical armor/weapons just as you can usually use looted magic armor weapons.").
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    As a rule, yes. If it fits



    The section you quote is specifically about selling equipment that you find (PHB, p. 144)




    Selling Treasure



    Arms, Armor, and Other Equipment. A s a general rule, undamaged
    weapons, armor, and other equipment fetch half their cost when sold in
    a market. Weapons and armor used by monsters are rarely in good enough
    condition to sell.




    Rules for using equipment you find are found other places. Some significant rules are found in the following section on Equipment Sizes (PHB, p. 144, bold added).




    Variant: Equipment Sizes



    In most campaigns, you can use or wear any equipment that you find
    on your adventures, within the bounds of common sense
    . For example,
    a burly half-orc won't fit in a halfling’s leather armor, and a gnome
    would be swallowed up in a cloud giant’s elegant robe.



    The DM can impose more realism. For example, a suit of plate armor
    made for one human might not fit another one without significant
    alterations, and a guard’s uniform might be visibly ill-fitting when
    an adventurer tries to wear it as a disguise.




    So most of the time, if you find equipment and it is reasonable for you to use it, you can. A DM is the final judge of what would be "reasonable" to use. Note that this decision could be based on something other than a creature's size. For example, a bow made for an Illithid could have a grip too alien and strange to be comfortably used by a humanoid. Also, whether or not equipment has been damaged may be a factor. A DM might decide that armor worn by Orks is usable if they were disabled by a sleep spell, but not if they were killed by a might blow from a warhammer. Armor that usually would fit might become too dented to be worn after you kill its occupant (although a DM might then have to bend over backwards to explain why your own armor is wearable after you've succeeded on three death saving throws).



    However, some DMs may ignore any of these concerns and declare that every piece of equipment you find can be used by you. It all comes down to what they consider "common sense."






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      As a rule, yes. If it fits



      The section you quote is specifically about selling equipment that you find (PHB, p. 144)




      Selling Treasure



      Arms, Armor, and Other Equipment. A s a general rule, undamaged
      weapons, armor, and other equipment fetch half their cost when sold in
      a market. Weapons and armor used by monsters are rarely in good enough
      condition to sell.




      Rules for using equipment you find are found other places. Some significant rules are found in the following section on Equipment Sizes (PHB, p. 144, bold added).




      Variant: Equipment Sizes



      In most campaigns, you can use or wear any equipment that you find
      on your adventures, within the bounds of common sense
      . For example,
      a burly half-orc won't fit in a halfling’s leather armor, and a gnome
      would be swallowed up in a cloud giant’s elegant robe.



      The DM can impose more realism. For example, a suit of plate armor
      made for one human might not fit another one without significant
      alterations, and a guard’s uniform might be visibly ill-fitting when
      an adventurer tries to wear it as a disguise.




      So most of the time, if you find equipment and it is reasonable for you to use it, you can. A DM is the final judge of what would be "reasonable" to use. Note that this decision could be based on something other than a creature's size. For example, a bow made for an Illithid could have a grip too alien and strange to be comfortably used by a humanoid. Also, whether or not equipment has been damaged may be a factor. A DM might decide that armor worn by Orks is usable if they were disabled by a sleep spell, but not if they were killed by a might blow from a warhammer. Armor that usually would fit might become too dented to be worn after you kill its occupant (although a DM might then have to bend over backwards to explain why your own armor is wearable after you've succeeded on three death saving throws).



      However, some DMs may ignore any of these concerns and declare that every piece of equipment you find can be used by you. It all comes down to what they consider "common sense."






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        As a rule, yes. If it fits



        The section you quote is specifically about selling equipment that you find (PHB, p. 144)




        Selling Treasure



        Arms, Armor, and Other Equipment. A s a general rule, undamaged
        weapons, armor, and other equipment fetch half their cost when sold in
        a market. Weapons and armor used by monsters are rarely in good enough
        condition to sell.




        Rules for using equipment you find are found other places. Some significant rules are found in the following section on Equipment Sizes (PHB, p. 144, bold added).




        Variant: Equipment Sizes



        In most campaigns, you can use or wear any equipment that you find
        on your adventures, within the bounds of common sense
        . For example,
        a burly half-orc won't fit in a halfling’s leather armor, and a gnome
        would be swallowed up in a cloud giant’s elegant robe.



        The DM can impose more realism. For example, a suit of plate armor
        made for one human might not fit another one without significant
        alterations, and a guard’s uniform might be visibly ill-fitting when
        an adventurer tries to wear it as a disguise.




        So most of the time, if you find equipment and it is reasonable for you to use it, you can. A DM is the final judge of what would be "reasonable" to use. Note that this decision could be based on something other than a creature's size. For example, a bow made for an Illithid could have a grip too alien and strange to be comfortably used by a humanoid. Also, whether or not equipment has been damaged may be a factor. A DM might decide that armor worn by Orks is usable if they were disabled by a sleep spell, but not if they were killed by a might blow from a warhammer. Armor that usually would fit might become too dented to be worn after you kill its occupant (although a DM might then have to bend over backwards to explain why your own armor is wearable after you've succeeded on three death saving throws).



        However, some DMs may ignore any of these concerns and declare that every piece of equipment you find can be used by you. It all comes down to what they consider "common sense."






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        As a rule, yes. If it fits



        The section you quote is specifically about selling equipment that you find (PHB, p. 144)




        Selling Treasure



        Arms, Armor, and Other Equipment. A s a general rule, undamaged
        weapons, armor, and other equipment fetch half their cost when sold in
        a market. Weapons and armor used by monsters are rarely in good enough
        condition to sell.




        Rules for using equipment you find are found other places. Some significant rules are found in the following section on Equipment Sizes (PHB, p. 144, bold added).




        Variant: Equipment Sizes



        In most campaigns, you can use or wear any equipment that you find
        on your adventures, within the bounds of common sense
        . For example,
        a burly half-orc won't fit in a halfling’s leather armor, and a gnome
        would be swallowed up in a cloud giant’s elegant robe.



        The DM can impose more realism. For example, a suit of plate armor
        made for one human might not fit another one without significant
        alterations, and a guard’s uniform might be visibly ill-fitting when
        an adventurer tries to wear it as a disguise.




        So most of the time, if you find equipment and it is reasonable for you to use it, you can. A DM is the final judge of what would be "reasonable" to use. Note that this decision could be based on something other than a creature's size. For example, a bow made for an Illithid could have a grip too alien and strange to be comfortably used by a humanoid. Also, whether or not equipment has been damaged may be a factor. A DM might decide that armor worn by Orks is usable if they were disabled by a sleep spell, but not if they were killed by a might blow from a warhammer. Armor that usually would fit might become too dented to be worn after you kill its occupant (although a DM might then have to bend over backwards to explain why your own armor is wearable after you've succeeded on three death saving throws).



        However, some DMs may ignore any of these concerns and declare that every piece of equipment you find can be used by you. It all comes down to what they consider "common sense."







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